RESCHEDULE Livestream Lecture! Planetary Physics 201: Earth’s Temperature (Sept. 16, 2023, 8pm MDT)

(won’t be messed up this time!)

This livestream (Sept. 16, 2023, 8pm MDT) will be the first time in history where the entire temperature structure of the Earth’s surface and atmosphere (i.e., the troposphere) is explained all in one place, in one lecture. This has literally never happened before, anywhere, or in any university, although it easily could and should have.

Join me for this academia-shaking lecture and include yourself as one of the ones who was there to witness this original and paradigm-shattering scientific event! The lecture will be open to questions which you can provide via the livestream chat, and I will also ask the audience occasional questions throughout the lecture just as would be experienced in a real university classroom.

Please join me for this interactive livestream lecture on Planetary Physics and solving Earth’s temperature without an undefinable “greenhouse effect”. This lecture would nominally be directed to 2nd-year university students in an astrophysics or physics major, but do not worry if you’re not in such a program as I will explain all concepts.

Are you ready to end the chokehold which the enemy forces of irrationality have over modern science, government, and politics? After this event, things will be different. Join me in making it happen!

PDF of slides: https://climateofsophistry.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/planetary-science-201-livestream-1.pdf

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48 Responses to RESCHEDULE Livestream Lecture! Planetary Physics 201: Earth’s Temperature (Sept. 16, 2023, 8pm MDT)

  1. Joseph E Postma says:

    Thanks so much to all you awesome people who were there waiting on the stream. I was SO mad at myself for not getting it right for you guys…my heart really sank feeling like I let you guys down. But like I say with my daughter: don’t wish the past could have been different, but see what you can do now and in the future! I’ve been up all night now troubleshooting and it looks like the laptop Bluetooth has quit, which is why it would give sound for a few seconds after turning off and then back on. I thought it was the headset itself, but on my PC the mic works amazing. I now cannot get ANY response via the laptop Bluetooth via any program/restarts/etc., so it looks like it has completely failed.

    In any case – I can’t wait to see you guys in 20 hours or so! Hopefully most of you, all of you, and more of you, can come all come back on! We’ll have a great time and it will be even more interactive than it would have been. I have a GREAT presentation for you all which I actually wrote while out camping! I’ll re-post the lecture slides in PDF a few minutes before the stream starts again.

    So sorry again about the previous attempt. Seeing you all waiting and chatting made me feel really great. Let’s make this next try a success, have a great laugh, have a great time, and we’ll slice out a portion of calm sweet rationality for us to chill in for a couple of hours. Maybe I’ll bake biscuits and “share” them with you over tea 🙂

    See you soon!

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  3. boomie789 says:

  4. Philip Mulholland says:

    Joe,
    Great job. I am downloading this lecture to MP4 (Video) to save on my PC using yout.com
    Housekeeping Tip:
    When doing YouTube videos always remember to ask your audience to hit the Like and the Subscribe buttons. This helps improve the visibility and reach of your work.

  5. The 2 hour MP4 file crashed my C drive.
    http://www.yout.com has a sound only MP3 option that worked.

  6. Philip Mulholland says:

    Altering insolation energy has a pedigree in Science Fiction.
    In the late 1950s the BBC Home Service radio station ran a Sci-Fi drama called “Shadow on the Sun” in which the Earth was plunged into an ice age by the presence of a cloud of dust in space that blocked the sunlight.
    In 1972 Isaac Asimov explored the idea of interdimensional energy transfer in his story “The Gods Themselves” in which as a consequence of the quantum tunnelling the Sun was going to become a super nova.
    Turning down the dial on the sun by stellar quenching however is a more challenging approach worthy of the talents of an astrophysicist. 🙂

  7. Note the company name too: Making Sunsets.

    As in making a sunset on life on Earth.

  8. CD Marshall says:

    When mankind tries and play “God” they ultimately become the “Devil”.
    History repeats itself in cycles as well.
    A much stranger phenomenon than climate.

  9. spro says:

    @CD Marshall

    When can we admit, though, that they are just playing “Devil”?

  10. boomie789 says:

    Humans are animals, driven by our animalistic desires. If most of our animalistic desires are bad, and few are good, it is much easier for most of us to be bad, than it is for us to be good.

  11. CD Marshall says:

    The shorter version from a cynic.
    “All civilization ends.”

  12. boomie789 says:

    Lol

  13. J Cuttance says:

    That was excellent JP. You should clip it at both ends to make it THE reference lecture.

  14. Joseph E Postma says:

    Yes good idea, will do that and re-post soon.

  15. spro says:

    Finally quit reddit again. The straw on the camel’s back was gaming related. Forgive the tangent, it’s relevant.

    I posted about a sci-fi game in the “lore” reddit for it, discussing how the game interprets space travel. Comparisons were made to other sci-fi franchises. The post was deleted because the subreddit has a strict policy of only discussing information sourced from explicit references in the game. So the game has warp drives, but unless there’s a quote or text describing how they work, you are not allowed to discuss them.

    I know this seems mundane, but it’s part of a larger trend I’ve noticed on reddit which follows directly from their administrative reaction to COVID stuff. It’s basically this: “What you see is what you get. There’s no hidden meaning, no subtext. Don’t analyze, don’t notice anything. Don’t discuss any information that’s not explicitly given to you by authoritative sources.”

    You can sort of intuit when Tavistock style behavioral constraints and habit training are being introduced obliquely.

    And the climate skeptic sub is weird in its own way. I’ve noticed that scientific discussions of RGHE, “sky dragon” stuff, leads to quiet users posting a dozen boomercon news articles about Greta and “the libz” which is massively upvoted. This is called sliding.

    I’ve been talking about RGHE there, and the majority of active users who are skeptics are unwilling to deny it. There are maybe 2-6 who accept the basic premises of the lecture posted above.

    In my final post I neglected the scientific discussion and just asked why people believe so strongly in RGHE.

    I got a half dozen different, I mean completely different, responses that were more or less trying to talk me off the cliff so to speak. “The climate is just too complicated to draw simple conclusions from pressure and gravity.” There’s one. “Well yes pressure and gravity cause the warming but that IS the greenhouse effect, so I wouldn’t go around denying it exists.” What?

    I understand the Planet Wars premise, but there’s an added sense I’m picking up which is just that people seem not merely to love cognitive dissonance, but it’s as if they are starting to love the sensation of being an idiot. Maybe that’s the endgame of cognitive dissonance.

    The beginning of totalitarian government. When people embrace ecstatically their liberation from thought. Where they take pleasure in exercising their minds to produce non-thought and contest with others to drag them down.

    I know reddit is ground zero for this, so what do you expect?

    Talk about anything and everything, except anything that brings you to clarity and truth.

  16. Joseph E Postma says:

    “I understand the Planet Wars premise, but there’s an added sense I’m picking up which is just that people seem not merely to love cognitive dissonance, but it’s as if they are starting to love the sensation of being an idiot. Maybe that’s the endgame of cognitive dissonance.”

    YES! That is in fact exactly what I said in Planet Wars: they have been conditioned to feel like cognitive dissonance is being smart, which, yes, then makes them love the feeling of being an idiot.

    Exactly!

    I mean it’s a good test. Not sure if you are familiar with Hockney, but they wrote about a device called a “Soul Camera”, which could detect your soul, and tell you things about it. Well, what we have here, with your question for example, is a type of soul camera: the question you pose and the weird responses to it, and also how I find these strange responses when I ask people/scientists if representing the Earth as a sphere might be better, give us the “image” of the respondents soul/mind: they’re basically not there anymore; they say retarded shit; etc.

    And yes, what you’re finding is analogous to, or a direct example of, telling people that Twitter is now for free speech, but then, of course, private interests are still moderating and shadow banning, to teach you or condition you to think that this is what free speech is – speech which you are ALLOWED to say, only.

  17. Joseph E Postma says:

    “Talk about anything and everything, except anything that brings you to clarity and truth.”

    That’s why they talk all about spectra and everything under the sun and never define the greenhouse effect…so that you can never get to the truth. They have a way around everything.

    First they say that the RGHE is about backradiation making the surface warmer.

    You point out the 1st Law and the definition of heat, showing that that idea is impossible.

    Then they call you an idiot, and say it was never about that, but that it is about slowed cooling.

    You point out that slowed cooling doesn’t mean raising temperature above -18C input; you still need much higher than -18C input.

    Then they call you an idiot again, and bring up sweaters.

    You point out that sweaters are about convective stoppage, just like how a real greenhouse works, which contradicts the claim that the RGHE and backradiation is what it is all about.

    Then they call you an idiot again.

    Then you point out the lapse rate, and that the RGHE diagrams claim that the RGHE is responsible for the lapse rate, whereas the ideal gas law and gravity, adiabatic effects, is.

    Then they call you an idiot again, and say that the RGHE is about setting the height of emission.

    You point out that the height of emission cannot be at the surface where it has to be hottest due to the lapse rate, because that’s not where the average can exist.

    They call you an idiot again.

    They just keep going and going and going, never stopping at any definition. They don’t need a definition, because the effect doesn’t exist.

  18. Joseph E Postma says:

    I mean, look:

    When I have physicists telling me that they cannot express just how much contempt they feel for me, because I point out what difference it makes between a round Earth vs. a flat Earth….!!!!????

    Yah, then we’re dealing with something way fucking out of the ordinary. Your account of what you witnessed on Reddit is another indicator…it represents a connection, but which seems so inexplicable. But for me, doing this for 15 years almost…I’ve witnessed that connection all over the world, always making no sense and having no explanation. It shows a level of coordination which is simply implausible…because, I should be able to get ANYONE to agree that round vs. flat makes a difference.

    And so, yes, hence the premise in Planet Wars…backed up by research and demonstration, and of course, other sources.

  19. CD Marshall says:

    Arrogance is bliss.

  20. CD Marshall says:

    This guy acts more like a comedian than a physicist.

  21. CD Marshall says:

    Joe maybe you should do some “reaction videos”.

  22. Philip Mulholland says:

    This is wild.
    How to derive general relativity from Wolfram Physics with Jonathan Gorard

  23. boomie789 says:

    (https://files.catbox.moe/5m44ru.mp4)

    “This is insane:

    Windmill companies are getting between $600k-$900k PER TURBINE, while the farmers who erect them are only receiving a $12k subsidy and are liable for anything that happens because of these damned things.

    What’s worse, all those millions of dollars are coming 100% from taxes levied upon the people.

    The craziest part, though? THEY DON’T EVEN POWER ANYTHING. and need COAL POWER to function. You can’t make this shit up.

    I guarantee this is not only happening in Australia. They’re putting these godawful things all over rural Texas too. They absolutely destroy the natural scenery and are a plague on the environment on top of everything else.

    These current governments really are criminal enterprises. Fill in the blank for what needs to happen but it won’t be solved by judicial means within the System.”

    Altskull48

  24. Joseph E Postma says:

    I posted this recently on FB:

    “SEM: Sovereign Earth Militia

    It is now clear that the entire purpose of the AC/PI/Hockney operation was to bring to light the existence of an enemy which aims to end all life on Earth.

    After seeing some of the “academic” replies to my Livestream, and in comparison to the normal regular healthy people who can comprehend what I’ve presented, and who appreciate that there’s a difference between flat vs. round Earth, cold vs. hot sunshine, whereas the academics cannot, it is all the more clear and confirmed that we are facing a threat which seeks to end all life on Earth.

    Under the directive of General Operations alluded to in Planet Wars, we must now form a group of human Illuminist Ontological Mathematicians who vow an oath to protect Earth from this outside alien parasitical threat. We need to coordinate to develop our own monetary resources via businesses and other ventures and offerings; we need to form a militia utilizing command and control schemes drawing upon all aspects of human knowledge, including not only the physical requirements of a militia, but also spiritual, for spiritual warfare. We must gain control over our own food resources and production, and gain control over government, and media, and form a perpendicular economy and break-away civilization which squashes this parasite out of existence.

    The target of our warfare is now very easy to identify, and we know their m.o. due to my work in Planet Wars, and we know what their m.o. is directed to achieving.
    We now have the tools which can be used to identify and expose our enemy, from my work in Planet Wars. Our enemy is very, very powerful, and we may not be able to stop them from the total genocide of all life on our planet Earth, but, they also suffer from an incredibly weak position, maintained only by appearances and fake manufactured consent and spiritual technology which we currently do not have access to. Their operations to murder all life on Earth could be shut down quickly if we do this right, and that is our problem: we may not have the ability to to do this right. But, there is hope, because we do now understand the plot. We just need to unravel the thread.

    Please, learn the material I’ve presented in Planet Wars, become an Illuminist who can comprehend basic applications of Ontological Mathematics, and join the fight. This is REAL WORLD.

    This is a REAL WORLD exercise of Ontological Mathematics and Illuminism. This is a test of our world, a test of our humanity, and a test of our intelligence.

    Are you one of our best? Are you one of humanity’s noetic representatives? You do not need a degree, you do not need an extravagant IQ score – you just need to be able to recognize something trivial, and use its truth to destroy the enemy.

    This is why we were given Ontological Mathematics, and “Hockney”. To see if we could use it to understand the threat we face, and use it to save ourselves.”

    So, yes – we are basically going to have to form a militia, an army, some sort of structure of those of us who are real humans, who can think, who realize we need to save the planet from these freaks and their insane, lying plans which pretend to be good for the environment, when they are the exact opposite of good.

    The NPC’s simply cannot understand…they’re controlled, and not real people anyway. At some point, this is all going to need to be physically stopped, because they are going ahead with it all regardless of what we say, and no matter how we point out how irrational and pseudoscientific their designs are. They don’t care. They just need to get away with it long enough until they succeed.

  25. Joseph E Postma says:

    @CD: Even if we are responsible for the additional CO2…and, I think that they’ve likely f’d up all the research on that in any case…it is a GOOD thing.

    Of course, it is part and parcel of their whole bent that we humans should affect nothing…basically meaning that we shouldn’t exist.

  26. Joseph E. Postma says:

    This is employment to get people to figure out how to block out the Sun. Like I said – they are going ahead with their plans!

    The National Research Council Canada / Conseil national de recherches Canada (NRC) is hiring at the Metrology Research Centre in Ottawa!
    Are you interested in tackling emerging climate challenges?

    Aerosol and Gas Metrology is seeking 2 early-career research associates to work on research related to the optical characterization of aerosols or gases.
    As a research associate at the NRC, you’ll gain hands-on experience in aerosol and gas characterization with support from a large team of researchers with a wide spectrum of expertise in the emerging fields of aerosol science, climate science, gas characterization, spectroscopy, and metrology.

    Apply now: https://ow.ly/cPuq50PMW6S
    Deadline to apply: September 26, 2023

    At the NRC, we know that diversity enables excellence in research and innovation. We are committed to a diverse and representative workforce, a safe and respectful work environment, and contributing to a more inclusive Canadian innovation system

  27. Joseph E. Postma says:

    Aerosol research is of course for figuring out how to block out the Sun.

    At least they’re hiring trannies to do it, and the science is all based on the GHE…which therefore should help it fail.

    Of course, if they have a plan, as discussed in Planet Wars…then they’ll get this science right.

  28. Yes I highly recommend anyone to read through those threads, and also look in that group at this thread too which linked my Oppenheimer Ranch appearance:

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/453353528124367/permalink/6415303685262625/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

    It’s amazing the lengths these shifty quacks will go to for defending flat earth theory! There’s quite a few comments on those two posts, but you will see how awesomely I rounded them up while they had nothing to say except to keep repeating that sunlight spreads over the entire surface of the Earth…lol.

  29. The first FB post above I couldn’t comment on much because I was temp banned, but the second one I linked with the Oppenheimer interview, I got to respond all night and a bit today, and you should see how badly these guys got trounced. At one point, one of them was claiming to the effect that a flat plane is the same as a sphere…lol. If that’s true, then why not use a sphere!? Lol. If that’s true, then why is -18C colder than +121C?

  30. Jack Dale says:

    You were trounced.

    The Earth’s energy balance is NOT based on a flat Earth. This is a been pointed out time after time.

    Why is TSI divided by 4. Because the Earth is spherical.
    “In general terms (Harte 1988), the energy absorbed by the Earth can be written as:
    EI = (1 – a) * Ω/4
    ‘a’ is planetary albedo (0.31, this is the proportion of incoming radiation reflected to space and lost); Ω is the solar constant (solar radiation reaching Earth, in Watts m-2 , about 1367). This is energy delivered at the top of the atmosphere. We divide by 4 since the solar energy is spread over the surface of the planetary sphere. The Earth intercepts a circular area of incoming sunlight, and this area is spread over a sphere with the same radius as the circle (area of circle / area of sphere of same radius = 0.25).”
    https://www.nature.com/…/the-global-climate-system…/

    Without the GHE the Earth would be -18C. That has been known for 2 centuries. Time to get current.

    https://www.lyellcollection.org/doi/10.1144/jgs2020-239#sec-4

    All you have been doing on FB is posted the the same cartoon over and over while denying science.

  31. Philip Mulholland says:

    @Jack Dale,
    At no time since the foundation of the solar system has the Sun ever instantaneously shone over the whole surface of the Earth.
    The divide by 4 dilution of solar intensity used in the standard model is a complete fiction. The reality is divide by 2 if you want to insist on using averages.
    The next step in the process of returning the so-called “Climate Science” to reality is to incorporate meteorology into the analysis, specifically the process by which energy that is captured by the atmosphere and oceans at the tropics is delivered to the poles by the meridional advection process of fluid mass motion (the winds of the atmosphere and the currents of the ocean thermohaline circulation).
    The last time I checked the surface of the solid Earth does not rotate from the equator to the poles, yet this is precisely what is required in the formulation of the Vacuum Planet equation.

  32. Philip Mulholland says:

    @ Jack Dale,
    From your link to The Geological Society of London Scientific Statement:

    Earth’s climate system can be represented in its simplest form as a balance at the top of the atmosphere between the amount and distribution of incoming solar radiation and the outgoing longwave radiation emitted by the Earth–atmosphere system.

    at the top of the atmosphere” Did you miss that critical point perhaps?

  33. Joseph E Postma says:

    @Jack Dale

    Yes, and I spent much time trying to explain to you that this:

    “This is energy delivered at the top of the atmosphere. We divide by 4 since the solar energy is spread over the surface of the planetary sphere.”

    does not occur. The solar energy input does not spread over the whole surface of the Earth.

    The equation EI = (1 – a) * Ω/4 spread solar energy evenly over the entire surface of the Earth, which could only occur if the Earth were flat, which is why they use flat lines to represent the Earth with this approach. This is how it is flat Earth theory. The solar input is not equal to 1/4 of itself. The solar input is equal to itself, not 1/4 of itself; the solar input does not spread over the whole surface of the Earth.

    “Without the GHE the Earth would be -18C. ”

    This is the effective temperature of the Earth, and it is exactly what the Earth’s temperature is.

    Please watch the whole livestream, at least the lecture portion in the first half.

  34. Joseph E Postma says:

    @Jack Dale:

    “The Earth intercepts a circular area of incoming sunlight, and this area is spread over a sphere with the same radius as the circle (area of circle / area of sphere of same radius = 0.25).”

    The solar input does not spread over the sphere. To mathematically spread it evenly over the entire surface area of the sphere, would physically imply that that surface area has to in fact be a flat plane facing the sun, because that would be the only way to get that entire surface area evenly illuminated. This is of course why the relevant diagrams draw the Earth as a flat line, i.e., a flat plane.

    The solar input is not equal to 1/4 of itself.

  35. Joseph E Postma says:

    @Jack Dale:

    “The Earth’s energy balance is NOT based on a flat Earth.”

    When a flat line is used for the Earth, this is indeed a geometrical representation of a flat plane. A flat plane Earth is the only way one could have the solar input fall evenly over the entire surface. When one uses such a flat Earth approach, it requires that the solar power be equal to 1/4 of itself, which dilutes it down to -18C heating power, which is unable to create the climate. When the solar input is reduced to 1/4 of itself, this makes the sun unable to create the climate. To make up for this mistake, a fudge-factor pseudophysics “climate greenhouse effect” is invented to make up the difference.

    However, if you just use a spherical Earth and the solar input as-is, then, the solar input does have enough heating power to create the climate.

    We should prefer to use a spherical Earth and the solar power equal to itself, rather than a flat Earth with solar power equal to 1/4 of itself.

  36. CD Marshall says:

    Modern climate science is a waste of an education.

  37. You should see on those FB posts how many different ways these midwits come up with to defend that solar energy input spreads over the entire surface of Earth.

  38. CD Marshall says:

    This mental tare is everywhere, disassociation from physics, or whatever you want to call it.

    @6Sparx9
    10 hours ago
    @cdmarshall7448 average global temperature is mostly a physician’s was of justifying there is no equilibrium on the planet, that more energy is being added then is being removed expressed as temperature.
    Most climate models don’t try to work around this value because it doesn’t reflect the issues they are concerned with such as seasonal ice melt or rainfall. But it’s easier to convince a wider public of phenomenon they believe is taking place than to show for example the antartic sea ice calving rate over 50 years.
    However, average temp is also harder to falsify, especially since the way it is derived includes quite a lot of creative license with arranging and omitting data.

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    @cdmarshall7448
    @cdmarshall7448
    8 hours ago
    ​ @6Sparx9 A common problem in modern climate science is confusing (or deliberately misdirecting) flux with energy. Energy equilibrium does exists on the planet according to the conservation of energy laws/ thermodynamic equilibrium does not.

    Energy in equals energy out in a 24 hour period. Flux in does not equal flux out and never will on planet Earth. Even the on the Moon flux in does not equal flux out.

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    @cdmarshall7448
    @cdmarshall7448
    8 hours ago
    @6Sparx9 The “temperature” of planet Earth is 254.0 Kelvin. The “temperature” of Moon is 270.4 Kelvin.

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    @6Sparx9
    @6Sparx9
    8 hours ago (edited)
    @cdmarshall7448 well when we talk about average temperature in the specific context of climate change study we are almost always referring to land surface temperature or sea surface temperature. You know this so I don’t get your point, what do you mean? Is it because I mentioned physics? Apologies for the conflation.

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    @cdmarshall7448
    @cdmarshall7448
    7 hours ago
    @6Sparx9 Surface temperature is not the average global temperature. The surface is the warmest point of Earth’s global temperature gradient (which includes the surface/troposphere) and as such will always be the warmest point of the system.

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    @6Sparx9
    7 hours ago
    @cdmarshall7448 when climate studies compiled in the IPCC reports predict the catastrophic effects of a 1.5 to 7 degree rise in average global temp, they are referring to a normalized average derived from weather/observation stations measuring LST. Or in some cases satalite image data of troppo but less so since this data only goes back 50 years.

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    @cdmarshall7448
    7 hours ago (edited)
    @6Sparx9 Yet that temperature is -18 Celsius on average. Are you seeing the problem?

  39. CD Marshall says:

    Those experiments have been done and the ghge does not exist, and they make fraudulent experiments to claim it does. Which means it’s not about the climate:

    FB
    John Vaughan
    1h ·
    Why do climate skeptics never perform physical experiments? Is it because “lazy” or is it because you know all the experiments prove AGW theory?

  40. Joseph E Postma says:

    They just lie and obfuscate, invert and project, 100% of the time.

  41. Philip Mulholland says:

    Why do climate skeptics never perform physical experiments?

    Precisely how do we perform an experiment on something that does not exist?

  42. Joseph E Postma says:

    They don’t even know what experiment to perform. The ones that exist they pretend do not. Every single greenhouse in the world tests the climate radiative greenhouse effect concept every single day, and they show that it doesn’t exist. But then…that’s because it’s not the RIGHT greenhouse effect…lol.

    They’re like Protestants, who constantly have their own version of the right way to do Christianity. Another connection to it being just another religion for IFLS midwits.

  43. J Cuttance says:

    hi JP did you do the below re this posting?

    1. J2 Cuttance says:2023/09/19 at 2:27 PMThat was excellent JP. You should clip it at both ends to make it THE reference lecture.
    2. Joseph E Postma says:2023/09/19 at 2:42 PMYes good idea, will do that and re-post soon.

  44. donaldgisbey says:


    Hmm, some protestants might question any assertion of the right way to “do” christianity. What does that term mean anyway? Perhaps the effect of protesting against indoctrination? Maybe look into the etymology of the term? Pro; means for. Test; means a vessel used to evaluate the purity of metals. So the protestant wants to evaluate the truth in what is presented in front of them.

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