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I like this guy.
May be hard to understand though.
Not for you (obviously), but others.
This problem is retarded.
At that intensity, the higher energy photons would not be sufficient to heat the system faster than it can cool, especially considering the emissivity values of 0 or 1. The cooling rate of the plate would likely exceed the heating rate provided by the heat source, leading to a net loss of heat and a decrease in temperature. Within the parameters shown, hard to clarify what those temperatures would be.
It’s a non functional equation.
I’m guessing what these morons think is with the emissvity of 0 for >3 microns that somehow those very few photons in that range (considering point source and the inverse square law) to the T provided would somehow be “trapped” in the insulating plate and never cool with the rest of the radiating body.
If you want it to hot let it get heated by 5800K and be done with it.
SO I took the equation literally. Let’s assume “Jim’s Green Plate” is somewhere in our system with a solar constant of 240 W/m^2 that would be an asteroid somewhere between Mars and the belt (round about).
Assuming the regolith of the asteroid is similar to the Moon.
Answer was still 255 Kelvin in equilibrium.
Joe you wanna take a crack at it?
Long ago, in an artistic life far, far away …
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/laobkyoxhw2dj9hlksrs5/SpaceEnergySubstanceLifeMeaningWhatRealityIs.pdf?rlkey=2nntplkunkzz7k6q4q24n7nlp&dl=0
Robert Kernodle
Good to see you Robert!
So physics never turns out as you would expect.
Albedo is def in decline and begrudgingly they are admitting this is producing warming years.
The effective temperature of the Earth is also in decline by a degree (being 254 Kelvin over the standard 255 according to NASA) which this changed a year or more ago.
So if the effective free mean path has increased, this could explain a cooler upper atmosphere. Since most of this increased insulation is reaching the tropics it could be locked in the phase changes of water vapor and the heat capacity of the world ocean. This would essentially bring warming poles via air/wind circulation.
Now for the specifics.
TMLCs (thin mid level clouds) are in decline.
(An enormous amount of data is part of this not included for brevity & my sanity)
These clouds are formed by the “detrainment from convective clouds near the *zero-degree isotherm” refers to a process where air parcels are released from convective clouds (such as thunderstorms) in the vicinity of the zero-degree isotherm (the level where the temperature is around freezing point). These air parcels, which were previously part of the convective updraft, exit the cloud and mix with the surrounding environment. This phenomenon plays a crucial role in cloud formation and climate dynamics.
*Diurnally this threshold is higher in the atmosphere due to convective currents.
What prevents this from happening?
Short answer is an increased in updrafts.
What can factor into that? Humidity levels, vertical motion, aerosol concentrations and temperature inversions. Temperature inversions over the tropical oceans are rare.
Forbush Decreases (FDs) can inhibit aerosol concentrations. Your general cloud seeding prefers hygroscopic nuclei). Without proper condensation nuclei relative humidity can reach 300-400% before clouds could form. That in particular with increased tropical humidity by increased insolation would increase humidity levels increasing updrafs and decreasing TMLCs.
Vertical motions, or updrafts can increase by SSTs, atmosphere instability, moisture availability, wind shear and large-scale atmospheric circulations [Madden-Julian Oscillation (MJO) and El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO)].
In short.
*Insolation
My eyes are worthless.
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