What is Heat Transfer? (And what happened to Academics?)

In this follow-up to the previous video on “What is Heat”, we have a physics lesson on the MODES of heat transfer and why all modes obey the same basic principles, such as heat flowing from hot to cold only. We also discuss the strange situation academia finds itself in today, with its believing in and active support of total pseudoscience.

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256 Responses to What is Heat Transfer? (And what happened to Academics?)

  1. Philip Mulholland says:

    Joe,
    Humanity has been set an existential test and we are failing catastrophically.

  2. Well…you and me and the others here aren’t…! Maybe we’ll inherit the world…

  3. boomie789 says:

  4. CD Marshall says:

    A great conversation I was not part of but still I thought was very good…

    Right or Wrong: Thermal radiation’s spectrum is continuous for earthly normal objects like a lite light bulb or a conductor, it is because once you plug every electron in the solid into a giant quantum mechanics equation, I personally call it a “giant fermi pool” while obeying the Pauli exclusion principle, I will end up with many energy levels for trillions of electrons, those levels are going to be quite continuous.

    Wrong. Thermal radiation is all about photons. It is obtained, when the modes of electro-magnetic cavity (e.g. vacuum inside a box) are occupied according to Bosonic statistics. The box can be imagined infinite, and one get’s continuum of photon states, and the number of photons in each state is given by the Bose-Einstein distribution. In other words, the electrons and nuclei of the ‘metal’ of the black box plays only a very minor role here. There is some particular light-matter interaction between the matter and the photons in the box. The exact form of this interaction does not matter to the end result. It is just sufficient that there is some interaction. Now, if the electrons and nuclei of the metal have a different temperature, mediated through light-matter interaction, heat will flow to the photon modes of the cavity until the light and the matter are in thermal equlibrium. This is related to the equipartition theorem, which needs to be applied to quantum energy levels of photons in order to avoid the ultraviolet catastrophe.

    Right or Wrong: Gas under atm pressure doesn’t emit continuous spectrum, because their atom’s electrons are so far apart, they are not interacting, each atom’s electrons are in their own isolated “fermi pool”. Different atoms can have electrons of the same energy state.

    Wrong. As discussed in part 1. the continuous spectrum is all about the photons being in thermal equilibrium. Thermal emission on atoms occurs when the temperature is sufficient large so that an electron can be thermally excited. This excited state of an atom does then couple only to very special modes of the cavity, namely to those which preserve energy and momentum. Therefore, one obtains sharp peak of photon energies when observing emission.

    Right or Wrong: A block of insulator will have a discontinuous thermal radiation spectrum at some temperature as its “internal conditions” (like crystal lattice or boundary condition) just won’t allow some energy state to exist.

    Wrong again, I’m afraid. It is true that semiconductors and insulators have forbidden single-particle levels, for example so that there is a gap between their photoemission and inverse-photoemission spectra. But the idea is correct, since there actually exists structures which have a photonic-band gap. Similarly to the electrons, given certain geometry of the cavity, photons too can have band gaps. Due to geometry (for example a periodic lattice of metal beads in a transparent substrate) there are forbidden energy-levels for photons. Keywords: opals (yes, the common gems have a band gap in such that particular wave lengths of light cannot propagate in them), photonic crystals.

  5. Kev-In-ZA says:

    Big thumbs-up…!

  6. boomie789 says:

    This nutjob probably has a degree.

  7. CD Marshall says:

    Yet just like this idiot I stopped arguing with on YT the total TSI at the equatorial zenith is around 940 watts per square meter per second because of albedo and subtracted from the TOA solar flux.

    Maybe this guy would debate you?

  8. boomie789 says:

    @CD Marshall
    I think I did ask this guy already.
    Thermodynamicist1215 lol.

    He diverted, he doesn’t have the balls.

  9. Herb Rose says:

    Object a Object b
    ———->. =>
    Ma=1 g Va=100m/s MVa=100 gm/s. Mb=200 g Vb=10m/s MVb=2000gm/s
    KEa=5000gm^2sec^-2. KEb=10000gm^2sec^-2

                                  ---------->=>
                              MVa + MVb = 2100 m/s
         Va =.5 m/s.           Vb = 10.5 m/s.   KEa=.25 gm^2sec^-2    KEb=11025 gm^2sec^-2
    

    [JP: Again, Herb, the less massive but faster object has higher energy flux density, hence is actually hotter than the slower more massive object. Your example perfectly demonstrates heat flow from hot (the less massive faster object) to cold (the more massive slower object).]

  10. Barry says:

    Do I not understand this he is saying that the 1370 would be right at earths distance from the sun but not for earth. I’m confused

  11. boomie789 says:

    Yea That is a kooky one there.

    He’s the really confused one.

  12. CD Marshall says:

    NASA has known for over twenty years that solar storms deplete Ozone and failed to mention that bit of important information? Too funny.

    https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/ProtonOzone

  13. CD Marshall says:

    “Their findings, published in the August 1, 2001, issue of Geophysical Research Letters, show that less than one percent of total atmospheric ozone in the Northern Hemisphere can be quickly reduced by one of these events. “It is an indication of the power of the sun to actually affect the atmosphere in a sudden, cataclysmic way,” Jackman says. While the results do not show a significant impact on human health, especially considering that most of the ozone loss documented in this study occurs over the northern polar region…”

    The poles depleted of ozone by the Sun. It would be interesting to do a research of solar storms to ozone depletion through the years and see how they correlate.

  14. CD Marshall says:

    Interesting climate science claims NO, nitric oxide, is not a greenhouse gas but evidence says it is similar to CO2.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5562409/

    “NO molecules are often produced in an excited state from which they can emit IR radiation. Even after de-excitation, collisions with the heated background gas can re-excite NO to an active state.”

    CO2 is not IR active until excited either.

    Yet right here…
    http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/mguidry/Unnamed_Site_2/Chapter%202/Chapter2C3.html#:~:text=Neither%20nitric%20oxide%20nor%20nitrogen,these%20sources%20difficult%20to%20measure.

    “Neither nitric oxide nor nitrogen dioxide are greenhouse gases, although they are important in the process of creation of tropospheric ozone which is a greenhouse gas.”

  15. CD Marshall says:

    Interesting…

  16. CD Marshall says:

    So if Trump overturns this the Left will threaten the lives of the electorate college as the next step that’s my guess.

  17. CD Marshall says:

    I need a very educated rebuttal for this bs…
    //www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeYfl45X1wo

  18. That’s not showing the radiative Greenhouse effect…just scattering of IR in a 100% CO2 column. Did the back-scattered IR make the match burn brighter??

    You see this sophistry of just fn making shit up and performing “experiments” that have nothing to do with anything. It’s just a con using terms and demonstrations that no-one has any familiarity with…hence succeeds.

  19. There’s nothing wrong with a hot source radiatively heating a cool gas. What doesn’t happen in that vid is the heated but still cooler gas making the match, the source, hotter still. GHE people don’t know wth they’re even supposed to be talking about.

  20. CD Marshall says:

    Yeah they claimed the IR camera showed the heat was “trapped” by the CO2 and that’s why it wasn’t showing up on the camera. I have to admit this is a new one on me and I thought I had seen them all by now.

  21. IR light was scattered…that’s all…the gas column scattered photons to other directions hence making the flame appear dimmer. Heat trapping is a nonsensical term in any case.

  22. CD Marshall says:

    I agree but these are hard to argue to a dim/mid wit. The thing id the flames showed cold not hot…the exact opposite of the claim but you can’t argue that to an idiot.

  23. CD Marshall says:

    I found this comment in the video…
    “The IR absorbed by the CO2 is immediately re-radiated randomly in all directions (not retained). So those rays that were travelling from the candle to the camera are in effect scattered when CO2 molecules interpose between the candle and the camera.”

  24. CD Marshall says:

    Can a Solar Vacuum Tube really reach 370F? What’s the trick? Part of it is pressure but it has to be focusing the density of the solar flux somehow or something I’m not aware of?

  25. Leon says:

    Joseph,

    What will it take to get a real debate going with Roy Spencer et al? With all the ominous crap building up with more lock downs and Trudeau admitting to a “reset”, (something that will get you yanked from YT btw), they’re going to pull a climate lock down next. Have you seen the world economic forum’s video on 2030 sustainability? It’s spooky as f. First clip says “You will own nothing and be happy” with a grinning idiot for the camera. We need some c4 to get their attention. What would be their incentive to debate you? Money? What about a go-fund me with a charitable donation to the winner’s choice? We’re just running in circles here and we need to do something news worthy. I’m willing to do the leg work to facilitate this.

  26. Solar vacuum tube? But sure solar energy can do that with variations of emissivity and just a small amount of focusing of the light.

  27. Leon, perhaps there is no point trying to go through Spencer and the Warmists et al. They’re gatekeepers and they’ve always been the priblem

  28. Joseph E Postma says:

    Darn that comment got eaten by the WP app.

    There is no point going through the warmists and gatekeepers. As you saw, I asked Spencer to a debate and he ran scared and blocked me. Why go through them, why ask for their permission, why ask for them to allow themselves to be defeated? They never would…they’re not going to agree to a debate or showing where they know that they’re going to fail. No one would do that, let alone them.

    Any leg work you do is huge and everything helps. Share the videos on Twitter and tag people like Musk, Trump, university department & professors, other public entities, etc. It is expected to be ignored for a while…until we cannot be. Show these institutions righteous indignation and demand an explanation for why they support flat Earth theory. I’ll have more videos coming soon on that. The way this will develop is

    1 ignore/ridicule
    2 deny/fight
    3 accepted as self-evident

    We WILL WIN because we are at 3. We have 3 on OUR side…our position IS self-evident…we own it and it is our territory. And so we recognize that we will have to take others through 1 & 2. There is NOTHING more self-evident than a flat line, and they’ve provided it for us! But this will all take time because once people realize what has happened, it will be such an impact demanding tremendous reformation of the scientific establishment…because it’s a FN flat line Earth developed into physics!!! This has the potential to have the largest impact on modern science that has EVER occurred. And so we are damned well going to have to go through those three stages of truth. We all here…we’re already at 3, and we can rest-assured in our position there, at 3. We have the perfectly self-evident position, and knowing that, we must watch as others and the progress of the information for everyone else goes through 1 and 2 until it meets us.

    We WILL WIN…because we have 3. We own 3. We are the essence of 3. All we have to do is to not go away. All we have to do is to bother people and watch as they keep trying to ignore us, and, keep trying to fight us. But our position at 3 is infinitely strong, infinitely powerful, because a flat line is SELF fn EVIDENT. All we have to do is stay alive…lol.

    People like Spencer are at 1, and sometimes 2.

    I have a video I wanted to do this week sometime…and then I’ll do a video about us being at position 3, and how to use that position. In the end we won’t have to argue about the details of heat flow and the 1st Law, etc etc etc. No one will care about that. It will simply be self-evident that a flat line as the Earth is pseudoscience, and that will be the only argument ever needed and the only one anyone ever remembers. The general public isn’t going to have the mind for the details of heat flow and the 1st Law..etc., but, they will absolutely be able to laugh at the idea of a flat line representing the entire Earth! The general public WILL be able to grasp that perfectly and sufficiently.

    So yes…any leg work you can do is huge. Anything.

    Maybe we need a group name that subliminally queues off of 3 – Self Evident Climate Alarm Debunkers…lol? Anyone? Something that suggests that our position is self-evident.

  29. Darn that comment got eaten by the WP app.

    There is no point going through the warmists and gatekeepers. As you saw, I asked Spencer to a debate and he ran scared and blocked me. Why go through them, why ask for their permission, why ask for them to allow themselves to be defeated? They never would…they’re not going to agree to a debate or showing where they know that they’re going to fail. No one would do that, let alone them.

    Any leg work you do is huge and everything helps. Share the videos on Twitter and tag people like Musk, Trump, university department & professors, other public entities, etc. It is expected to be ignored for a while…until we cannot be. Show these institutions righteous indignation and demand an explanation for why they support flat Earth theory. I’ll have more videos coming soon on that. The way this will develop is

    1 ignore/ridicule
    2 deny/fight
    3 accepted as self-evident

    We WILL WIN because we are at 3. We have 3 on OUR side…our position IS self-evident…we own it and it is our territory. And so we recognize that we will have to take others through 1 & 2. There is NOTHING more self-evident than a flat line, and they’ve provided it for us! But this will all take time because once people realize what has happened, it will be such an impact demanding tremendous reformation of the scientific establishment…because it’s a FN flat line Earth developed into physics!!! This has the potential to have the largest impact on modern science that has EVER occurred. And so we are damned well going to have to go through those three stages of truth. We all here…we’re already at 3, and we can rest-assured in our position there, at 3. We have the perfectly self-evident position, and knowing that, we must watch as others and the progress of the information for everyone else goes through 1 and 2 until it meets us.

    We WILL WIN…because we have 3. We own 3. We are the essence of 3. All we have to do is to not go away. All we have to do is to bother people and watch as they keep trying to ignore us, and, keep trying to fight us. But our position at 3 is infinitely strong, infinitely powerful, because a flat line is SELF fn EVIDENT. All we have to do is stay alive…lol.

    People like Spencer are at 1, and sometimes 2.

    I have a video I wanted to do this week sometime…and then I’ll do a video about us being at position 3, and how to use that position. In the end we won’t have to argue about the details of heat flow and the 1st Law, etc etc etc. No one will care about that. It will simply be self-evident that a flat line as the Earth is pseudoscience, and that will be the only argument ever needed and the only one anyone ever remembers. The general public isn’t going to have the mind for the details of heat flow and the 1st Law..etc., but, they will absolutely be able to laugh at the idea of a flat line representing the entire Earth! The general public WILL be able to grasp that perfectly and sufficiently.

    So yes…any leg work you can do is huge. Anything.

    Maybe we need a group name that subliminally queues off of 3 – Self Evident Climate Alarm Debunkers…lol? Anyone? Something that suggests that our position is self-evident.

  30. Leon says:

    I know you say to leave it but that’s not in my DNA. I come from a long lineage of Mennonite pastors lol. Everyone has their price, be it notoriety or $$. Because they’re the gatekeepers, all the more reason to kick it down. To us, it’s clear a flat line isn’t representative of reality but to normies, they have no clue. But you are correct about normies falling asleep over discussions of heat transfer. These discussions get pretty complex. Need to think of a way to make it appealing. One of those ways is to give them a vested interest, what’s in it for them? Negotiations are always predicated on that. Asking someone for help or commitment needs to appeal to their sense of some kind of pay off. I want to find out what that would be.
    “They never would…they’re not going to agree to a debate or showing where they know that they’re going to fail. No one would do that, let alone them.”

  31. CD Marshall says:

    Leon I’m from a line of Collins one of them led a rebellion is Ireland. Some

    “Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon ’em.” -Shakespeare.

  32. CD Marshall says:

    Wow that got hashed to pieces somehow WP is acing funny these days or it’s just me.

  33. Leon says:

    CD,

    My great great grandfather negotiated the pilgrimage from Russia after the Mennonites were being persecuted and slaughtered, and led them to settle in Steinbach Manitoba. We have something in common.

  34. CD Marshall says:

    My brother’s line is a bit more glorious than mine lol. Not the same fathers obviously, but his line goes all the way back to Israel (line of KIsh) and to this day they are all ambidextrous (at least the males) by brother is, his father was and his grandfather and so on…his roots are in Hungary and then traced back the Lost Tribe of Israel.

    He’s a huge history buff so he has delved into the history of his warrior race lineage makes sense why he went into special forces, literally in his blood.

    Funny isn’t it though the US was the haven from persecution the place everyone wanted to get to if they could, and now is the place of persecution. My line came here through the Appalachians, I’ve been there btw, the only place I’ve ever seen an Outhouse race. The mountains are something, so strange because at the higher elevations you hear nothing, no sounds from animals or birds and very few insects.

  35. CD Marshall says:

    Joseph ever hear of the Schuster-Schwarzchild radiative transfer equation? I’m sure you have is it jusnk science or just abused by climate clowns?

  36. Joseph E Postma says:

    It is abused, OF COURSE. These liars just abuse everything. They love to get down into arcane aspects where they can pretend expertise.

    They begin with flat Earth, where the Sun doesn’t heat the Earth or create the climate. They invent reverse heat flow from there to attempt to make up for that error. QED. That’s it, that’s all.

  37. CD Marshall says:

    This is what I got from it…
    http://www.thermopedia.com/content/128/

  38. Joseph E Postma says:

    So it’s used for paint and how paint diffuses/reflects off of paint…lol.

    You see? How these morons just make stuff up? You have to give them credit for the things they will come up with, pretending they know anything about them.

    They begin with flat Earth, where the Sun doesn’t heat the Earth or create the climate. They invent reverse heat flow from there to attempt to make up for that error. QED. That’s it, that’s all.

    Just laugh at them for having to go to the equations for PAINT reflectivity to try to defend flat Earth theory…lol.

  39. Joseph E Postma says:

    how light diffuses

  40. CD Marshall says:

    How are they using that for radiative heat transfer in the atmosphere??? That was from an actual physicist and I’m sure a PhD. In fact I’ll just ask him.

  41. Look at what scientists think they should be doing with their time and funding:

    https://science.ucalgary.ca/geoscience/about/tom-oliver-series

    “Carbon Mineralization for CO2 Removal from Air and Permanent Storage”

  42. They now believe that they have to permanently remove CO2 from the atmosphere. Because of flat earth theory.

  43. CD Marshall says:

    Yeah so they are using that equation (and variations) to model radiative heat transfer. From Harvard:

    Click to access AbookC10.pdf

  44. Barry says:

    Quite amazing isn’t it that our co2 levels are finally getting back to a healthy level and now we would like to get rid of it. Maybe one day we can completely eliminate it or keep it at 140 ppm,just below the threshold for life. Greta will be ecstatic!

  45. And heat still doesn’t flow from cold to hot…

  46. Exactly Barry. What they’re proposing is truly evil.

  47. Leon says:

    Joseph,
    Going over your videos to send to a relative. Which would you suggest to start with?

  48. Almost any of them are good. The AMS video would work.

  49. Leon says:

    Well, he’s a pastor with a church. Not a sciency kind of guy so, baby steps. I can watch these videos and grasp almost everything seeing I’ve been researching this for about 4 years. But to an old man pastor… I’ll go with the greatest scientific fraud of all time. It’s only 20 min.

  50. Read this quote from “The Mandarin Effect: The Crisis of Meaning” by Joe Dixon –

    “No one else can be blamed for the failure of the education system than the education system itself, and in particular the education establishment, the Mandarin Elite. These people have made education painful and monstrous, not joyous and transformative. They have killed joy. They have turned education into the most boring undertaking possible rather than the most exciting. They should be fired en masse. Not a single one of them should be left to go on poisoning minds. There should be a total clearing out of the Mandarin class, and their total replacement by people who actually care about educating the people, rather than spouting tedious nonsense, like the Scholastic philosophers of old. (Actually, plenty of Scholasticism was philosophy of the highest order, unlike the nonsense of today.) By making education so repulsive, the Mandarin establishment have dumbed down the world to a staggering degree, destroyed humanity’s natural love of learning, and sent the masses in droves towards mind numbing drivel such as mass entertainment, mass consumerism, sport, reality TV, “dumbphones”, social media, and so on. No one has damaged the intellectual agenda more than those in charge of it, a bunch of autistic freaks with no clue about how humans work. The worst people to be in charge of the education system are those in charge of the education system. That’s humanity for you. Every dork, geek, and nerd from far and wide has been assembled to bore normal kids to death.”

    Start reading this book for free: https://a.co/aWLPqCB

  51. Leon says:

    Wait a second….
    if -18 is supposed to be an “average” and +15 is supposed to be an “average”, then why is 33C a de facto number? Don’t they say ghg provides 33C as a hard number? I don’t think I’ve read that 33 is an average ever. I could be wrong but this just occurred to me.

    I have another one. Correct me if I’m wrong but it’s as obvious to me as flat earth math is obvious to you. They say “No, co2 is not violating the 2nd, the warm surface still warms the atmos, it’s the net flux that counts”. I believe they calculate downwelling – upwelling. Well….In order to increase the NET of the surface, and seeing this is a function of subtraction, downwelling must decrease.
    Follow me here. To get a net increase after taxes, you would have to pay less tax than the previous year. So in order to get a net increase on the surface, the atmosphere flux must be less and less. Am I on to something here?

  52. CD Marshall says:

    A follow up with radiative forcing video would fit perfectly in this series and uncover one of the biggest misdirect ions in science aside from flat earth theory. In fact its so harebrained I’d love to know who originated this idea. I wonder if this is another Hansen sleight of hand?

    Once you’d learned enough rudimentary science forcing is so prosperous in the atmosphere as climate science dictates the process its something children could be taught correctly in the 5th grade.

  53. CD Marshall says:

    Joseph this idea came from Solving Politics, but you should have a debate with an empty chair next to you with the name Roy Spencer on it and explain he refused to debate you so you’ll debate an empty chair instead. LOL hilarious.

    He didn’t use Roy though, I did. He just said if you invite and they never show give the chair the name. Too bad you couldn’t switch cameras back and forth or something.

  54. CD Marshall says:

    On “What is Heat transfer” Primonome Ultimonome needs your attention. I’m not sure where he is coming from, so maybe talk to him yourself and settle his confusions or concerns as you deem fit.

  55. Joseph E Postma says:

    “if -18 is supposed to be an “average” and +15 is supposed to be an “average”, then why is 33C a de facto number? Don’t they say ghg provides 33C as a hard number? I don’t think I’ve read that 33 is an average ever. I could be wrong but this just occurred to me.”

    That’s a good point and insight! WHEN is it 33C? WHERE is it 33C?

    This goes entirely to the point that physics does not function as temporal and often-not spatial averages. The average is NOT WHAT EXISTS. And of course, that is entirely what they base their foundations upon: averages, that don’t actually physically exist anywhere or anytime. That’s what makes these “global energy budgets” fiction!

    “They say “No, co2 is not violating the 2nd, the warm surface still warms the atmos, it’s the net flux that counts”.”

    That’s just word-salad sophistry. They impose this word “net” into the discussion as if it makes a difference. They say: “Heat flows both ways, but the net heat is from hot to cold.” You see how that works? So all radiation is heat, and there is also this “net” heat that is from hot to cold, but heat still flows both ways. It is pure sophistry. Just pure shit. They mis-use the word “net”…or just make up what they want it to mean. The heat flow equation shows a “net”, i.e. the difference of two terms, as you know. Q = s(Th^4 – Tc^4). THAT is the net…Q (heat) IS the net. So then they say that both Th and Tc terms are heat, and also Q as the net is the heat too. It is really just pure sophistry.

    “Follow me here. To get a net increase after taxes, you would have to pay less tax than the previous year. So in order to get a net increase on the surface, the atmosphere flux must be less and less. Am I on to something here?”

    Yes sure, basically. It’s their misuse of the term “net”. They’re just inventing word salad with it.

  56. (when I comment without being logged in…it seems my own comments are now not being notified via email?? and also sometimes eaten??)

    “if -18 is supposed to be an “average” and +15 is supposed to be an “average”, then why is 33C a de facto number? Don’t they say ghg provides 33C as a hard number? I don’t think I’ve read that 33 is an average ever. I could be wrong but this just occurred to me.”

    That’s a good point and insight! WHEN is it 33C? WHERE is it 33C?

    This goes entirely to the point that physics does not function as temporal and often-not spatial averages. The average is NOT WHAT EXISTS. And of course, that is entirely what they base their foundations upon: averages, that don’t actually physically exist anywhere or anytime. That’s what makes these “global energy budgets” fiction!

    “They say “No, co2 is not violating the 2nd, the warm surface still warms the atmos, it’s the net flux that counts”.”

    That’s just word-salad sophistry. They impose this word “net” into the discussion as if it makes a difference. They say: “Heat flows both ways, but the net heat is from hot to cold.” You see how that works? So all radiation is heat, and there is also this “net” heat that is from hot to cold, but heat still flows both ways. It is pure sophistry. Just pure shit. They mis-use the word “net”…or just make up what they want it to mean. The heat flow equation shows a “net”, i.e. the difference of two terms, as you know. Q = s(Th^4 – Tc^4). THAT is the net…Q (heat) IS the net. So then they say that both Th and Tc terms are heat, and also Q as the net is the heat too. It is really just pure sophistry.

    “Follow me here. To get a net increase after taxes, you would have to pay less tax than the previous year. So in order to get a net increase on the surface, the atmosphere flux must be less and less. Am I on to something here?”

    Yes sure, basically. It’s their misuse of the term “net”. They’re just inventing word salad with it.

  57. re: forcing

    Well yes…they’ve invented this entire idea that cold forces hot to become hotter…yes that is the entire schtick. That’s why they call it that: “forcing”. That’s why they now try to say that ALL TERMS in the equation Q = s(Th^4 – Tc^4) are heat, and also that Q is the net heat (whatever that would now mean…haha).

  58. I replied to Primonome Ultimonome…and then “muted” them. Not sure if that muting) actually does anything.

  59. CD Marshall says:

    This is a perfect example from a troll who loves Skeptical Science and thus by association, pseudo science.

    “So now we have the conspiracy theory crap regarding SS. The greenhouse effect is being observed by satellites, land based instruments and scientists. The greenhouse effect does not break the 2nd law of thermodynamics. I found a few explanations from other sources than SS:

    Ian Miller, Physical organic chemist and theoretician “So far, there are no violations of the second law and I don’t expect any. People who claim such violations inevitably are found to have made sloppy logic. Without knowing why you asked this question, it is impossible to inform you of the problem.

    Perhaps one issue that confuses people is that the upper atmosphere is colder than the ground, and the back-radiation is alleged to heat the ground, and a cold object cannot heat a warmer one. The problem is the excited state of the greenhouse gas is in a higher vibrational state and that involves energy, not heat. It must move to a lower energy state, so it radiates a photon. That radiation does not warm the ground in the usual sense, but it excites the oscillators in the ground, which give off the grey body radiation, so what happens is the ground is not warmed, but it cools less quickly. The effect is similar to putting a blanket on your bed. The blanket does not heat you, but it slows your cooling.”

    Peter Upton, BA Physics & Mathematics, The Open University “The second law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy of an isolated system can never decrease over time. If you want to argue that the greenhouse effect contradicts this law and that the entropy does decrease. First problem is that you need an isolated system- this must include the sun, the earth and seeing as a lot of radiation from the earth heads off into space, the rest of the universe. Then you need to show that the entropy of the universe is decreasing, which it clearly isn’t.
    Short answer- they dont/ it is nonsense.”

    Jim Griepenburg, chemist “They don’t!! the incoming radiation is of higher energy photons; the outgoing radiation is of lower energy photons. Energy in = energy out; there are more photons of lower energy leaving so entropy has increased. If one thinks about it at a constant T the overall change in energy is ZERO. Therefore the only thing that drives the Earth is the difference in ENTROPY between the incoming and outgoing radiation. The greenhouse effect simply establishes the blackbody temperature of the Earth. Increase the greenhouse gas concentration the temperature of the Earth must increase. We can tinker a bit with reasonable effects but the idea of unlimited energy should horrify everyone because it means unlimited heat.”

    David Rosen, PhD Physics & Solid State, City University of New York Graduate Center (1985) “The greenhouse effect does not contradict the second law of thermodynamics.Black body radiation of high temperature, the sun, is turned into black body radiation of low temperature, the ambient air. Thus, the total entropy increases even with the greenhouse effect. Total entropy even increases with life. The second law of thermodynamics is not violated by any process on a macroscopic scale.”

  60. Leon says:

    CD,
    There’s a video floating around where a ‘well known’ climate scientist combines both adiabatic pressure AND forcing together in one swooping statement. Paraphrasing “As you increase height, the loss is 6.5 degrees per km but as you increase co2, the ceiling becomes higher. Conversely, the lower you go, the temperature increases. Say, an extra km is added to the co2 height, this means it would be 6.5 degrees warmer at the surface”
    I’ll see if I can find it.

  61. @CD – all the usual side-distraction arguments missing the point of their very own foundation: the sun doesn’t heat the Earth or create the climate, the atmosphere heats the Earth with twice the power of the Sun, heat must be implied to be flowing from cold to hot to make those other premises work. That’s the fact…those are the facts, those are their positions. They just like to pretend that they have some other position when their actual position is pointed out to them. They deny having any opinion on things at all, in the end, because they deny their own positions as it suits them.

  62. @Elon – yes that’s the radiative ceiling argument…the tropospheric hot-spot argument. The hot spot was checked for and it doesn’t exist. And other have shown that it is not a function of composition, but only total mass.

  63. Leon says:

    Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUFOuoD3aHw&t=414s
    Start at 9:30 and he makes the goof around 12:30

  64. CD Marshall says:

    Yes we’ve seen that video quite a bit here, it’s ripe with errors all the way through it. The thing is he’s smart enough to know he’s lying and at some points he almost looks guilty he’s doing it.

  65. Leon says:

    “he almost looks guilty he’s doing it.”

    Ha ha he does doesn’t he? He gives a subtle pause. I’ve challenged him there a few times but of course no reply.

  66. boomie789 says:

    “None of this is controversial, the physics are well understood”

    Then moves on to the old lukewarmers vs alarmist paradigm. Were you can argue forever meaninglessly. You are already on their track playing their game by their made up rules.

    Reminds me of Conservatives vs Democrats. Are we in their same constructed paradigm here as well? Were no matter what you do you can’t win, because it was rigged from the start.

  67. boomie789 says:

  68. J Cuttance says:

    Where can I get In the Cold Light of Day? Amazon only seems to have a Kindle version.

  69. For some reason the Kindle & paperback versions aren’t linked. Here is the paperback link:

    Cheers J Cuttance!

  70. J Cuttance says:

    wrong link but I got there, that exchange rate to the NZ lira ouch

  71. Mack says:

    Wow, that book of yours, Joe. Is it your first book? How do you get such heresy published. Who is your publisher with such cajones? How is the promotion achieved?…..with difficulty, I presume.
    Contact me…. I’m considering writing a book…. just one… title…. IT’S THE SUN, STUPID.

  72. Mack says:

    OK, I fired that comment off without looking it up. I see it was your first book.. and Amazon published them. Along with all the other sceptic books… Tim Ball, etc. …contact me none the less.

  73. boomie789 says:

    Dr Roger Hodkinson.

  74. CD Marshall says:

    Faint Sun Paradox:
    “Astrophysical studies indicate that the luminosity of the Sun was much lower during Earth’s early history than it has been in the Phanerozoic. In fact, radiative output was low enough to suggest that all surface water on Earth should have been frozen solid during its early history, but evidence shows that it was not. The solution to this “faint young Sun paradox” appears to lie in the presence of unusually high concentrations of greenhouse gases at the time, particularly methane and carbon dioxide. As solar luminosity gradually increased through time, concentrations of greenhouse gases would have to have been much higher than today. This circumstance would have caused Earth to heat up beyond life-sustaining levels. Therefore, greenhouse gas concentrations must have decreased proportionally with increasing solar radiation, implying a feedback mechanism to regulate greenhouse gases. One of these mechanisms might have been rock weathering, which is temperature-dependent and serves as an important sink for, rather than source of, carbon dioxide by removing sizable amounts of this gas from the atmosphere. Scientists are also looking to biological processes (many of which also serve as carbon dioxide sinks) as complementary or alternative regulating mechanisms of greenhouse gases on the young Earth.”

  75. boomie789 says:

    If Trump wins, the left is going to riot and burn down our cities and harass, even kill Trump supporters in the streets.

    If Biden wins, a very large portion of society is going to have the realization that their vote truly doesn’t matter. There will be no political solution.

    Not to mention the lockdowns and vaccinations.

    Seems though somebody up there is on our side. The fraud is evident for everyone to see. There is no doubt in my mind that this election is an ongoing coup attempt. They weren’t able to hide it from us. That is the silver lining. I’m grateful for that at least.

  76. aljo1816 says:

    Hi Joe,

    When you cite the equation for radiative heat transfer:

    dQ/dt = σeA(T1^4 − T2^4 )

    How can you rationalize the fact that there is an obvious dependence on environmental temperature for the warmer object with your belief that energy cannot move from a cooler to a warmer object? If we remove the second object (T2=0), the rate of heat loss from T1 will always be higher than if T2 were present. Haven’t you disproven your entire argument here?

    [JP: As always with you sophists you’re taking that equation out of context and misapplying it. If there is an independent environment then this is independent energy which forms the basis temperature for all objects within it at the get-go, before anything else happens. This has nothing to do with heat transfer from cold to hot. If you have an independent environment at some temperature, and then introduce a hotter temperature object into it, then the hotter object heats the cooler environment…the cooler environment does not heat the warmer object. Secondly, where power must be conserved of the hotter object, the independent environment is an independent source of energy and power itself, NOT simply a downstream passive object…it is an active independent power environment with additional power contribution. This doesn’t represent heat flow into the warmer object from the cooler environment – it only represents the basis environment above which the hotter source of power heats itself and heats the environment.

    And of course, you sophists must always misquote and falsify statements: “your belief that energy cannot move from a cooler to a warmer object”

    That is not my belief, and I’ve literally never said that once. HEAT cannot move from a cooler to a warmer object. You either too stupid to understand this, or, you purposefully sophize. Hence, why you’re blocked and not worth talking to. You’re disingenuous. You lie purposefully, or stupidly.]

  77. boomie789 says:

    Must watch

  78. CD Marshall says:

    Glaciers are melting! Yeah but…
    How old is glacier ice?
    “The age of the oldest glacier ice in Antarctica may approach 1,000,000 years old. The age of the oldest glacier ice in Greenland is more than 100,000 years old The age of the oldest Alaskan glacier ice ever recovered (from a basin between Mt. Bona and Mt. Churchill) is about 30,000 years old.” -USGS (U.S. Geological Survey)

    So we have had glaciers that have survived 10 interglacials and a full Ice Age Cycle wich is very impressive.

    “The last four interglacials lasted over ~20,000 years with the warmest portion being a relatively stable period of 10,000 to 15,000 years duration.”

    We are only 11,600 years into his one but estimated 15k the warming declines.

  79. Ross Handsaker says:

    CD – regarding glaciers.
    Perhaps also interesting is the age of some of the Northern Hemisphere glaciers, eg the Fremont Glacier in Wyoming is only around 300 years old while the Hans Tausen Ice Gap in northern Greenland is no more than 4000 years old.This would suggest it was much warmer than today in those areas during the current interglacial.

  80. CD Marshall says:

    Ross Handsaker
    Excellent points and is supported by previous warming periods, but like today it’s not global as they claim. Regional anomalies would produce local phenomenon, such as increasing glaciers at one place and receding glaciers at another. They pervert science by using “global” for everything. When an actual “global” event does happen no one will care.

    Have you see this?
    https://www.researchgate.net/project/Mapping-the-Medieval-Climate-Anomaly

    https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1akI_yGSUlO_qEvrmrIYv9kHknq4&ll=-3.81666561775622e-14%2C38.03818700000005&z=1

  81. Zelator says:

    Flipping Heck! Cartoon News Network caught red handed? Were they aware of the switch? Complicit?

    I tell you what, if Trump overturns this situation, ( because, as of now their has been no decision about the result, only claims made by the media), then the Fake Stream Media and DNC are in shit street. How can a countries media and political infrastructure ( well worldwide as it’s being reported
    following suit with the US Media ) be complicit in such a huge corruption against the people survive?

    There has to be jailing of culprits and instigators, firings, public castigation and even execution for treason for such huge crimes. This is massive!

    If this is proven true, then this will be the Sting of the Century.

  82. Zelator says:

    And the demons the djinn perform their majick in front of your eyes…

    So the devil cheats the world:

  83. Zelator says:

    They tell us who they are, as they always do, they do this to mock us; words are chosen carefully, there is power in the word.
    There are no coincidences, everything is chosen for its intended purpose and the energy it holds.

    Ephesians 6:12, NIV: “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities,
    against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.”

    Dominions: Fallen Angels or as we call them Archons.

  84. CD Marshall says:

    I still want to know why they feel the need to cover up giants as actually existing? Someone had a lot of influence to make that disappear and replace it with evolution as the holy grail to species.

    The even weirder thing about it is folklore said them be the offspring of ‘fallen angels’.

    Don’t know about that part but they have records of giants in the bible and they gave them height measurements the tallest was King Og I think? Who was said to be the last of his line of true giants, and the bed they laid him on was like 12-13 feet our measurements.

    All lands had tales of giants. Dinosaurs existed why not larger humanoids?

    I think it was the Mayans maybe told of “watchers” or “guardians” who came across the ocean in giant rafts and become kings of city states (or regions not sure anymore). They were said to be giants with great knowledge and wisdom and lived may lives of men.

    Considering ancient tech they keep finding is far more advanced than they had anticipated it has baffled them. Even the ability to fly perhaps not as we see see it but they found a way. Maybe balloons weren’t such a new invention?

    I don’t know but I’d love to be able to see in the past and prove these things once and for all true or false.

    You know the Aztecs had horns so intricately carved they simulated the sound of jaguars perfectly. Something this day can only be duplicated with 3-D printers “if” I have my facts right. Maybe not?

  85. boomie789 says:

    I want to know what all those weird skulls that have been found are all about.

    And there is more to them than just skull forming/molding from a young age. At least that Is what I think. Those skulls were full of a huge brain is my understanding. Significantly larger than normal. Also the bones that that up the skull are different.

  86. boomie789 says:

    *Also the bones that make up the skull are different.

  87. CD Marshall says:

    Isn’t obvious those are skulls from Alien. Makes me want to watch AVP. You know come to think of it, Alien was a weird name for that movie but it worked and stuck. I guess xenomorph would have been too much for the time period?

    So many things from ancient cultures they simply discard because they don’t want to recognize maybe evolution wasn’t as evolved as they believed/de-evolution might be possible as well.

  88. boomie789 says:

    I don’t know if it’s aliens. Apparently the latest DNA on them says they have Aryan and middle eastern DNA. Keep in mind they were found in Peru.

    But you are right in that there is this evolution narrative that seems be be treated as gospel. Like they already figured it out and any evidence to the contrary is ignored or made to fit.

  89. boomie789 says:

  90. boomie789 says:

    Skip to around 40 minutes and watch for a little while.

  91. Zelator says:

    Shit or bust. What does Trump and his lawyers have? Big players putting their reputations on the line.
    He is lining his big guns up in states for the recounts. Look who is now in charge of PA, WI, MI, and GA

    Circuit Courts have been Reassigned:

    Effective November 20, 2020, ordered pursuant to Title 28, United States Code, Section 42

    MI – Brett M. Kavanaugh
    WI – Amy Coney Barrett
    PA – Samuel A. Alito
    GA – Clarence Thomas

    Think of The Godfather 1 , all business is sorted.

    This is the best live poker game ever witnessed in the history of the world?

    The alphabet agencies are implicated, is this the biggest sting of the century? Is the shit show about to be exposed; is the house of cards about to fall? Come on Donald pull the plug on the swamp once and for all. We’ve planned this from day 1. Lets do it!

    http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index3399.htm

  92. CD Marshall says:

    Joseph,
    Another physicist, Barton Paul Levenson, claims he’ll debate over CC
    His words, “Are you a physicist? Do you have any expertise at climate science? Not all physicists do, in case you didn’t know. BTW, yes, I am confident that what I claim is actually true, since it’s been the scientific consensus since 1956 and the evidence for it is overwhelming.”

    I replied, “Not I good sir, you’ll be debating Joseph Postma, an astrophysicist whose very clear on his stance to the consensus science. So naturally, he can keep up.”

    Still waiting for a reply.

  93. CD Marshall says:

    Odd he was quick to reply when he thought he was debating me so far nothing back after he found out it was you…Maybe he’s looking into you first?

  94. CD Marshall says:

    Joseph thought you’d find this amusing…

  95. Well let’s see if he responds.

  96. CD Marshall says:

    Well still hasn’t responded nothing but crickets. I’m guessing your reputation proceeds you. He sounded so confident didn’t he?

    Until he wasn’t.

  97. boomie789 says:

    Should record it and post it.

  98. CD Marshall says:

    That info I got from the US Geological Survey on glaciations is gone now! As I went back it just vanished into “a bad gateway”. Everything else is still there but that.

  99. CD Marshall says:

    Joseph it’s a go with Barton Paul Levenson, I’m guessing he did some research on you first he now feels confident you have been “debunked” I’m guessing SS. Once I hook em I should send in Boomie to work it out the debate platform.

  100. I’m a bit busy for a week and a half here…darn…ummm…I’m on vacation. Can it wait until dec 7?

  101. CD Marshall says:

    Don’t think he cares, give him more time to “prep”.

  102. CD Marshall says:

    Boomie you should set up a contact email I can put out on YT (so you know a burner email) so they can contact you an you can set the platform up if Joseph is fine with that?

  103. I can just do it directly via zoom.

  104. boomie789 says:

    Discord seems to work fine. Let him know you want to record it, and post it online.
    I would use discord and just record it with GeForce again.
    That’s up to Postma really. Plenty of ways to do it.

    The important part is to get good content. Hopefully it’s a good debate. Post it on YouTube for the lols.

    Let him know you are recording it and posting it online though.

  105. boomie789 says:

    Yea I was going to mention Zoom

  106. boomie789 says:

    If you even want to record it and post it online. That’s what I would like to happen. If my opinion matters.

    If it’s a good debate at least.

  107. CD Marshall says:

    I asked him if Zoom is fine with him, we’ll see. I still need a contact email to give him or a link to a contact email.

  108. CD Marshall says:

    Great audio of the NWO…

  109. CD Marshall says:

    Deja Vu

  110. This is another example of ignoring what they know: https://phys.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/University_Physics/Book%3A_University_Physics_(OpenStax)/Map%3A_University_Physics_II_-Thermodynamics_Electricity_and_Magnetism(OpenStax)/01%3A_Temperature_and_Heat/1.07%3A_Mechanisms_of_Heat_Transfer

    At first they say about radiation: “the net heat transfer is from hot to cold.”

    And a few lines later they describe the atmospheric “Greenhouse Effect” by claiming: “The atmosphere absorbs much of that infrared radiation and radiates about half of the energy back down, keeping Earth warmer than it would otherwise be.” This warming cannot happen because the earth is warmer than the atmosphere. So they claim a heat transfer from cold to hot. Contradicting their own text. Also they fail to see that not all energy acts as heat. Especially when coming from a colder body.

    Eyes wide shut :-p

  111. CD Marshall says:

    What is the full physics science behind igloos?

  112. sith says:

    Joe,

    Climate scientists make the general claim that, without the radiative Greenhouse effect, the average surface temperature of the earth would be -18 C. All water on the earth would freeze and the oceans would turn into ice, and life would not exist as we know it. I don’t believe this one bit.

    You have made many good arguments against the radiative Greenhouse effect. I like to add one more. In the solar system, there is the concept of the snow line for water, which is the distance from the sun before a planet surface water turns to ice. I’ve seen references that the snow line for water is 2.7 AU. The earth is well within the snow line so even without the radiative Greenhouse effect the sun is warm enough to maintain liquid water on the earth surface.

    What do you think?

  113. Yes that’s an excellent argument. Its exposes the fundamental cognitive dissonance of climate science. Can the sun melt ice on the earth, or no? They believe it strictly can’t, and yet that it does, but not via their models which say that it doesn’t, etc.

  114. Via their GHE models the sun does not melt ice. Which is a consequence of their flat earth geometry. On a round earth as I show, then the sun can melt ice on the earth. These are mutually exclusive results. The sun can create a climate in one, but not in the other. But if you ask them to chose….they don’t!

  115. Barry says:

    Seems odd they say the sun can’t heat the earth and yet it warms the moon with no atmosphere to quite a high daytime temp. And where does this heat in the upper atmosphere come from if not the sun. It seems to me that they have solved our energy problem,you can take minus 18 and turn it into 15 just from saying it must be so. I understand the politicians with their devious plans to steal money from the western world but how academia has swallowed this nonsense and even promote same is beyond me . Rather a sad statement on what passes for an education today.

  116. CD Marshall says:

    That’s where the “divide by 4” is necessary, so that they can claim the sun’s power is diffracted in the atmosphere and does not have enough power to warm the surface.

    Which if this is correct for diffraction,
    d sin theta=n lambda ,I’m not even sure they are applying that correctly?

    Clouds would be a greater diffraction than the sphere itself in my mind, and aerosols or particulates.

  117. Mark S says:

    “The atmosphere absorbs much of that infrared radiation and radiates about half of the energy back down, keeping Earth warmer than it would otherwise be.”

    If GHG is “keeping” the earth warmer, where did this “Warmer” come from? The sun?, the atmosphere? How is -18c warmer? If 15c is the warmer, where did the 33c come from? So there no RGHE if the earth is already warmer?

  118. Barry says:

    Waiting for the shopper in the car this am about 6 above but the sun shining through the window felt hot on bare skin while the air temp was quite cool. I can’t understand why if most of our heat is reradiated to earth from the atmosphere how can the sun feel any different. If they were correct their could be no difference between direct sun or standing in the shade. Even animals have enough sense to seek shade on a hot day or sunlight on a cold one. Of coarse the people that makeup this stuff up don’t believe in physical laws or they would quickly prove themselves wrong.

  119. boomie789 says:

    @Mark S

    “If GHG is “keeping” the earth warmer, where did this “Warmer” come from? The sun?”

    The “warmer” comes from itself, lol. It’s “back-radiation” or “Radiative forcing” adding energy from the sun, back to the sun.

    Isn’t that retarded? lol.

  120. CD Marshall says:

    NOAA:
    “Please note: NCEI is experiencing an Archive Information Request System (AIRS) outage. We are working to resolve the issue as soon as possible. We apologize for any inconvenience. Please note: Due to browser FTP deprecation, users will no longer be able to access NCEI data via browser FTP clients. Users may access data via NCEI Web Accessible Folders and/or FTP client supported applications. We apologize for any inconvenience. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JUra5HnsbR_xmtQctkb2iVxRPuhPWhMB5M_zpbuGxTY/edit as reference.”

    In other words we aren’t done changing all the archives yet to show warming.

  121. CD Marshall says:

    Australia, yet again, is becoming the ‘poster child’ for global warming. “Record breaking heat” again just as they said last year and the year before…

  122. Jopo says:

    Yep. Record heat the BOM say. But they also say it is because of a lack of clouds. Or in otherwords because of a lack of greenhouse gases. November was a stinker.

  123. boomie789 says:

    Covid-19 and the “greenhouse effect” were created by the same people to accomplish the same goals.

    Weaken and conquer the west and get filthy rich doing it.

  124. Barry says:

    Ya Boomie that is exactly right and the sheeple just put their masks on and go along like lambs to the slaughter. We have created the stupidest society since the caveman, in their defence they had no way of knowing. Now that we have science and physics established ther is no excuse.

  125. CD Marshall says:

    If you haven’t seen the movie, “TENET” yet you have to see it.
    .ti ees ot evah uoy tey “TENET”, eivom eht nees t’nevah uoy fI

  126. Max Polo says:

    Dear Joe, Dear guys
    thanks for this great blog and discussions.
    I have tried to build myself my own “talking points”, starting from a GHE debunking via the First Law of Thermodynamics, then writing down the typical objections I would expect from the alarmists, and rebutting them. I would much appreciate your critique / suggestions. In particular, the point referring to GHE as a blanket is one that gets a lot of “success” and I’m not satisfied with my rebuttal (I have highlighted my reply with a yellow background). Claims of the alarmists are in red.
    Thanks, and keep the good work going !
    Max from Italy

    PS here is the link to the file https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sexN8ggUuBTDOyrJa71_mIILC9x0WUsk/view?usp=sharing

  127. This is literally how sad these people are:

    The control freaks are simply all voyeurs…they are so disconnected from reality that their only life is in watching the control of others.

  128. Barry says:

    To Max I’m not a physics guy but have been following joe and his followers for a while now one thing that I would add to the insulation theory is that it works both ways. When you add insulation to your home it not only keeps the house warmer in winter but also cooler in summer as it blocks out the hot sun just the same as a cloud blocks out the sun and keeps us cooler on earth. I know that’s not very scientific but is something they always overlook. Cheers Barry

  129. CD Marshall says:

    Tony Heller left YT he’s on New Tube now. He left before they banned him. Never go against the NWO. and in the NWO the WHO are apparently setting the stage thus they are as god to the Left.

    All Heller did was repeat the media talking points and he was banned. They are trying to overthrow an elected US President these ‘things’, these embodiments of evil, hive mind, whatever you want to call them, no longer fear repercussions.

    In their mind they have already won. The final test was Covid-19 now they know they can fully manipulate a body without resistance.

  130. Yep…these media entities are the enemy of humanity.

  131. Barry says:

    Cd I’m afraid your right but I think they have won when I look around and see the sheep wearing masks. I loved Joseph’s video above here, the elite must be laughing realizing how easy it was. The msm declaring Biden elected but voter fraud evident ya but so what. Heaven help us.

  132. CD Marshall says:

    This guy’s stupidity is on a level all by itself, even when he tries to talk science in a mish mash language…
    “CO2 is well known as a coolant in the atmosphere in real physics.”

    In your schizophrenic physics yes ..

    This is not true, and you can repeat it as long as you want and will not make it more real.
    Did we talk last time about temp.inversion when ground in cold winter night cool down much faster that air above.”

    This is mainly BECAUSE soil radiate much better heat to space than greenhouse gases.
    Do you understand now how silly is your statement that GHG cool down Earth atmosphere, they can’t!
    Most effective way of radiation from earth to space is if you have nothing (vacuum).”

    That experiment proves that your view on climate is delusional and fueled with that guy Posma (that is nobody in climate science).

    You can test with that experiment does CO2 traps hear or not, doesn’t matter at what wave lengths it is.
    If you can test it at peak wave length of 15um on 200K do it.

    Radiation at 250K (-20°C (-4F)) peak at 11um from Wien’s law and at 5um and 35um is at 10% power.
    Even from temp. source of 400°C you still have almost 10% radiation power from that source at 15um.

    The thing is that Earth outgoing radiation is from desert hot sand from 120°C to cold Antarctic land at -80°C, so frequencies more than + / – 10um from 15um.

    As I said every temp have peak energy at some frequency, just like 500nm is from Sun radiation at 5700K, but you see that Sun power is not cemented at 100% on 500nm(otherwise all will be green in color) but it radiate from 100nm to more than 1000nm.

    The problem is that you are to scared of that experiment or you are not capable to do such a experiment, have no skills, untrained etc, and most likely a climate troll.”

    Which I explained to him inversion and that has nothing to do with the GHGE.

    He has no clue once heat is lifted off the planet’s surface it doesn’t return. The atmosphere is heated because the heat was moved from the surface to the atmosphere. In other words, the surface heated the atmosphere.

    No kidding a vacuum is a better! Again even though I explained conduction/convection/advection and finally KE is the main energy transport in the troposphere he goes on about his deranged version which has nothing to do with the actual conversation.

    Much of the rest didn’t even make any sense.

  133. They are seniley braindead. They cannot think basic things.

  134. CD Marshall says:

    Oh “his” experiment lol…
    “Your misconception is in believing that somehow greenhouse gasses absorbing heat is more effective in re emitting that heat to space than what solid ground with clear path without any obstacles at all can be.
    This is not true.
    Most effective radiative heat transfer is possible if you have nothing (vacuum).
    You just claiming that is opposite.”

    {The first part I never said he is putting his own words as my conversations. What idiot would even think that? Plus he threw the point which was how does the atmosphere once heated, cool w/o GHGs.}

    “Why are you so scared of that CO2 experiment, why don’t you do it at home?
    You can do it with minimal investment. Just buy infrared thermometer
    I have one that can measure up to 900°C.”

    Conjecture.

    “You said that you are physicist, so why you are so scared of doing simple experiment?
    You can make your own CO2 from baking soda, or buy CO2.”

    See how nuts he is? LOL I said I was a physicist? NEVER.

    “On each end of that tube you have to use thin plastic foil because glass do not transmit IR very well but plastic foil does.

    Best solution for testing raditive heat transfer is to put on one end of that tube (like with experiment with candle) heating plate that is heated to 400°C because at that temp peak radiation is at 4.3um, exactly at one of the CO2 absorption line and test with both IR thermometer and with regular temp. probe how much radiation that goes trough that tube filled with CO2 can heat temp. sensor at the other end, and also with regular air, or fill with pure nitrogen if you want.”

    What does 400C have to do with simulating solar energy? And he is claiming scattering theory is heat retention?

  135. They have no clue. They’re a computer program spitting out garbage bits with random sequences.

  136. CD Marshall says:

    Can you explain what his experiment is suppose to be saying? You are gifted at reading nonsense and putting it into legible words. Must be from years of dealing with incoherent sophists.

    Off subject, if you have a chance watch Tenet, I’d love to know how much of the physics they got right.

    Naturally it’s not all physics correct or you have no story lol, I’m just curious how much of the physics (they needed to be right) they got right. It moves so fast it was hard to stop and listen carefully to the physics explanations. Would have to watch it once for fun and second time to study the physics.

    It was a great movie though, I like fast paced movies that throw tons in your face and expect the viewer to have some inkling of intelligence to follow along without being spoon fed the plot.

  137. CD Marshall says:

    TENET

  138. boomie789 says:

    @CD Marshall

    Never even heard of it Until you. Might check it out tonight.

    I’ve been watching all of the hearings in the battle ground states.

  139. CD Marshall says:

    Boomie,
    Yeah all the “networks” are crying about Trump’s abuse of power. How dare Trump fight back as we try and forcefully remove him from office and commit treason.

  140. boomie789 says:

    This is from the Michigan one.

    I really hope the “sting operation” stuff is true. This is make or break point of the Qanon movement.

    I still don’t know if that server raid in Frankfurt actually happened.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/new_reports_about_election_manipulation_read_like_a_tom_clancy_novel.html

  141. boomie789 says:

    Context to the gif. This isn’t even all of it.

    Placating a child, lol.

  142. boomie789 says:

    🤣

  143. Barry says:

    Have you guys seen the news from the UN today they pretty much have wrapped the covid scam in climate change and announced a new world order lead of coarse by the UN. The great reset is upon us.

  144. Barry says:

    Joseph it is on another blog at peckford42. UN declares doom. Sorry computer illiterate

  145. Barry says:

    Or you can go to UN.org for statement on dec 02

  146. Zelator says:

    Joe, have you seen this video from Richard Montbleau? It’s an amalgamation of all of Klecks’ work
    and even has the praise of Kleck himself. It’s over 3 hours long and so haven’t watched it all yet, as I have only just found it, but it has rave reviews and thought I would share it:

    Cheers Z.

  147. Zelator says:

    By the way I asked the Illuminati about the rogue AI, and it is in the negative.

  148. boomie789 says:

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-03-situation-update-dec-3rd-trump-invokes-foreign-interference.html#

    “Consider that as I list all the evidence that Trump’s attorneys and DoD “white hat” team members now possess, much of which will surely be presented to SCOTUS, most likely by Sidney Powell, once one of her cases reaches that level of the judicial system:

    CIA director Gina Haspel admitting to election interference in a full confession which has now been acquired. (This is covered in the Dec. 3rd Situation Update podcast, above.)
    Dominion executives confessing to engineering backdoors into the systems, which has also been acquired.
    Packet analysis results from “white hats” who intercepted all the real-time vote rigging traffic, which includes the specific instructions from CIA servers to add the hundreds of thousands of votes in real time to Dominion tabulation machines in swing states. This is now publicly confirmed by Col. Phil Waldron.
    Log files and software evidence from the seized CIA servers in Frankfurt, which provides physical and intellectual proof that the CIA inserted hundreds of thousands of votes into the Dominion tabulation machines.”

    Sidney Powell herself and a couple of other noteworthy people have mentioned this server raid in Frankfurt.

    Worth noting you can’t post this to reddit. Same with anything from Gateway Pundit.

    Also, check out what this guy has to say. More on the server raid and what happened with that CIA director lady.

    Is this a disinformation program? A larp? Or it it actually real?

  149. Zelator says:

    Hi Boomie, good work. I read somewhere that Gina Haspel was even there in Germany during the raid and was injured during a firefight and arrested.

  150. boomie789 says:

    Exactly, the guy in the video says she was wounded, minorly. They were on their way to Gitmo when she cut a deal and flipped.

    Like The American Thinker article I posted earlier, it’s like a Tom Clancy novel.

    To good to be true?

  151. Zelator says:

    Sounds genuine, heard of this over 10 days ago that there was a possible Navy Seal Team 6 strike on that CIA headquarters in Frankfurt. The Haspel story came around November 28. Not so sure about her singing like a canary but I suppose if alternative is treason and d=firing squad otherwise shit why not?

  152. Zelator says:

    As I said in an earlier post ABC’s implicated.

  153. Zelator says:

    This has nothing to do with the Illuminati btw. This is the Old World Order in its death throes hopefully.

  154. Zelator says:

    Problem is who gets control of the farm…hmmmm

  155. Zelator says:

  156. Zelator says:

    I’ve just purchased the entire Truth Series by Dr Thomas Stark. Joe have you read any of his (their) works?

    If we couldn’t read or write or speak could we think? Is ontological maths the way thoughts are encoded?
    The soul is the coder/decoder of the ontological maths as it learns. Is the soul a foreign hijacker of our awareness( our beingness…the watcher)?

    The God Equation is the answer to gnosis. Understanding it in its entirety will bring you gnosis ( the Holy Grail).

    In The Book of Mind: Seeking Gnosis, Stark wrote:

    “DJ: ‘Is there enough mathematical knowledge in the present day that a monad can acquire and become God?’

    “Absolutely. Euler’s Formula is actually all you need. If you understood it inside out, you would achieve gnosis. That’s why it’s called the God Equation. However, it is the most complex entity in existence. Nothing is more deceptive than its apparent simplicity.”

    There is no spoon:

    A quote from The Matrix, spoken by Neo in reference to a bit of wisdom he learned from a child bending spoons with his mind.
    It signifies that a person cannot truly manipulate reality, a person can only manipulate him/herself. Only when a person
    changes him/herself can he/she change reality.

    “Do not try and bend the spoon. That’s impossible. Instead, only realize the truth… THERE IS NO SPOON. Then you will
    see that it not the spoon that bends, it is yourself”.

    There is no spoon, only you. You bend your reality and make a bent spoon appear that is bent?

    Change yourself= Change your conception of reality. When we are in the domain of mind that is our reality.( our conception) everyones conception
    is different but we agree on large things like gravity, air etc.

    Morpheus to Neo: do you think that is air you are breathing?

    How do we change our reality? Change the ontological math. Full gnosis is being able to change the ontological math at will.

    So you can only change your self you cannot manipulate reality. Reality is there, you can change how you are in the reality and you
    will see different results.

    We are the spoon and the spoon is us. Quantum entanglement:

    View at Medium.com

    The soul using ontological math(or is the ontological math) is a matter creator destroyer using the principle of the first law of
    dynamics namely energy cannot be destroyed only converted.

    “Then stop and ask yourself who or what is aware of your mind? How can you think about thinking? How deep does the rabbit hole go? In many
    traditions that is simple called “Awareness”. It’s not your mind because awareness can be aware of your mind, it may not even be your body
    because awareness can be aware of your body. Then what is it? Is it the soul?”

  157. Pierre-D Bernier says:

    I just might be moving to Alberta soon !

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48CYo90gWU4

  158. Zelator says:

    See once we are able to manipulate ourselves* in (Truth) “reality” we are no longer trapped in the matrix, we can come and go as we please.
    That’s why its so important to achieve gnosis. What the controllers do is only done to the ignorant. That is the original sin.

    OBE is a way out if you learn that you are going nowhere and that it is all a mind construct. Detach from the mind and you are free.

    Astral travel is mythos. There is nowhere to go but only in your mind story/dream. You are the dreamer not the dream.

    The first law of ThermoDynamics states you will never die. You cant die. Only your simulation/avatar can die. Become aware of how your soul uses ontological maths and you will be able to live in this world but not of it.

    *nb in Atlantis and pre root races we had this ability, but it was lost. This was the fall of humanity from light into matter.

  159. Zelator says:

    This is the revolution of mind necessary to defeat the cabal.

    No 3d attempts of persuasion will dent the OWO. It has to come from mind.

    Trying to fight on the battlefield of 3d is just like you playing a game of soldiers in a child’s game.

    You need to be beyond the 3d and attack from the mind.

  160. Zelator says:

    Boomie what if I told you that the Matrix formula had been discovered and that you could know it and be able to hack it, would you be interested? Would anyone be interested?

  161. boomie789 says:

  162. Zelator says:

    Love it Boomie. The devil went to Georgia and a lot of other states lol

  163. boomie789 says:

    @Zelator

    Is it the god equation? I know that one.

    Once I have the formula can I use it to destroy my enemies?

  164. Zelator says:

    If you knew the God Equation you would not need to destroy your enemies.
    Knowing of its existence is entirely a different mind set than understanding how the Grail works. The Matrix is the Game. The Soul knows part of the rules and spends its life working out mathematically how it can become whole again, bit like a Rubiks cube. Reality is holographic so each monad is trying to become whole back to the hive( God).

    The thing is it take aeons of time for a monad to find its way home so we have lives of learning. This 3d world is just a layer of learning. Problem is humans get attached to each level and don’t want to let go. Dying is seen as bad for a millionaires but relief for a cripple for example. Truth is its just a lesson.
    Knowing the God Equation allows you to skip the transitional world and become and I don’t like using this but God . You have to realise that God is nothing like what we know. Its not a God on this earth banishing all enemies.

    The illuminati who were given the Holy Grail by Simon Magus said this”

    “We deliberately write about the Holy Grail in ambiguous terms since it is the secret heart of Illuminism. We try to ward off “treasure hunters” who think of the Grail in terms of a Raiders of the Lost Ark adventure.
    “The Holy Grail is not finally a physical object because it is gnosis itself, the completion of the spiritual journey of existence. Everyone has access to the Grail as defined in these terms. However, the Holy Grail is also the Illuminati’s most prized and treasured object. It is an object of such a kind as to stupefy the world for it is a “God portal”. When a prepared person takes hold of the Grail, that very act results in gnosis (which is why we refer to it as a gnosis accelerator) and becomes God.

    “So, the Grail both is and isn’t an object depending on how you look at it. The Grail can be attained by anyone, whether or not they belong to the Illuminati, but only the Illuminati have access to the Grail object that guarantees gnosis there and then for a Grail Knight.

    I take this further and state that understanding the ontological mathematical formula is the Grail and it is knowable, its how your soul works, its your instruction book. Wouldn’t you want to know how to drive your vehicle? Its the ultimate chariot.!

  165. Zelator says:

    If you want an example of how ontological maths works and can be programmed into the soul, think of the fear program. The fear program is archaic, and goes back to primitive man for survival needs, but it is outdated.

    Think of a young child burning its hand on a stove and learning not to TOUCH A HOT STOVE AGAIN. Fear program kicks in.

    Now you may think that is good, but it can become debilitating. Fear programs gone awry become phobias.

    Using ontological math overlay you would rationally think that hot burns, so do not do it, basic logic. No need for a fear program.

    Living via ontological codes rather that subconscious programs can free you from this world.

  166. boomie789 says:

    “37 Trump votes used in the equal sample run had been “Switched” from Trump to Biden. In actual algorithmic terms this means that a vote for Trump was counted as 87% of a vote and a vote for Biden was counted as 113% of a vote.”

    Remember that electoral map that came out a while ago? The one that is supposedly the captured Frankfurt data? From Gateway Pundit and OANN.

    It just got a lot more credible.

  167. Barry says:

    Wow Boomie let’s hope this is right

  168. I read sometimes the “net heat transfer” is from hot to cold. This is used to allow “back radiation” because it is “brutto”. They claim then because the netto heat transfer is still from hot to cold, the back radiation (which they claim is heat transfer from cold to hot) would be ok.
    But i think there’s just heat transfer and every single heat transfer should follow the hot to cold law.

    For example the german climate research Professor Stefan Rahmstorf (this guy: https://www.pik-potsdam.de/members/stefan) says:

    <<< Some “sceptics” state that the greenhouse effect cannot work since (according to the second law of thermodynamics) no radiative energy can be transferred from a colder body (the atmosphere) to a warmer one (the surface). However, the second law is not violated by the greenhouse effect, of course, since, during the radiative exchange, in both directions the net energy flows from the warmth to the cold. >>>

    I would say, he is confusing heat with energy. Energy can flow from cold to hot but the 2nd law forbids heat from cold to hot. Of course radiation goes in both directions but this acts as heat only from hot to cold.
    His statement has in fact nothing to do with the AGE because “net energy” is not heat. The atmosphere could radiate all hell back down to earth but as long as it is colder there above, it is not heat.

    You can see how a professor that receives a lot of funding from the german government and runs an institute for climate research misleads the people.

  169. boomie789 says:

    More on that.

  170. boomie789 says:

    YouTube is run by psychopaths and it’s really starting to show.

    They are compelled to put their little fact checks under every video. They’re control freaks. It’s so blatant now it’s surreal.

  171. Complete psychopaths.

  172. Zelator says:

    They are George Orwell’s “Thought Police”. They think we are incapable of using rational thought to think for ourselves.
    So much so that if our thoughts and comments disagree with their party line you will be censored, banned and if they have their way punished and rounded up for “correctional training”. It is more sinister that meets the eye. When you consider some of the Intelligence
    Agencies that own Google who own Youtube etc, it makes you wonder what they do with the information. They probably have a database on all of us who don’t toe the line as “subversives”.

    You can only imagine what the Democrats would do if they get into power. Big Brother is here without a shadow of a doubt.

  173. boomie789 says:

  174. CD Marshall says:

    Question O great fellow science nerds, is this correct? Please explain why vertical and not a parcel of air or a vertical parcel of air? This is from a climate seminar:

    Hydrostatic Balance in the Vertical

    vertical pressure force= gravitational force

    -(dP) x (dA)= p x (dZ) x (dA) x g
    dp= -pgdz
    dP/dz= -pg

    As always thanks for reply.

    Just spent 5 days in a hospital.

    So I talked around asked questions and so forth, all the medical staff have no idea what is going on with C19 besides that they are terrified to treat the patients (most of them) who have families and plus the precautions needed.

    These guys would rather volunteer double back to back shifts then go to the C19 levels. They all know something is off about this whole thing and they are too scared to look at it further.

  175. boomie789 says:

    Glad to hear you’re ok.

    I bet the C19 floor is empty lol.

  176. CD Marshall says:

    boomie like democrat votes, it will be filled with something when needed.

  177. CD Marshall says:

    Thanks to the SC things are going to get ugly. Anything the Left wants looked at gets at least a look at, but the Deep State will not allow the Deep State to investigate the deep State.

    So the real question, who is actually running the United States and where are they running it from?
    Obama is just a good yes man, he has neither the wit nor the where to lead. They have a global puppet ready to set stage, as soon as the “Reset” hots they need a face, someone who lie to the masses without flinching and assure them they are all going to be fine going to the slaughterhouse.

    Personally, I don’t think the Elite is in charge, I think they are driven by Evil. What is Evil? Who cares, we all know it exists.

    Evil can’t be destroyed.
    Evil can’t be ignored.
    Evil can’t be reasoned with.
    Evil can’t be mandated.
    Evil can’t be negotiated with.

    Evil must be defeated.

  178. boomie789 says:

  179. CD Marshall says:

    Good video boomie, thanks!

  180. Zelator says:

    Hi CD, hope all’s ok after your hospital visit and speedy recovery to you sir,

    Boomie thanks for this update. Saved me wading through a load of resources.

    As far as the French and the UK fishing waters goes, let’s see them try and steal our fish in our own waters, the Royal Navy has already begun patrols. Cod wars here we come.

    British Admiral Horatio Nelson wiped out the French fleet at the Battle of the Nile in 1798. We sailed 2000 miles in 1982 to kick the Argie Bargies in the balls in the Falklands war even against your French Exocets.

    Rule Britannia and don’t forget what happened to Napoleon you bunch of garlic munchers and frogs legs eaters yuck!

  181. Zelator says:

    They tried to create a United States of Europe. It was the Globalist’s wet dream, but now it’s over thankfully …..
    One more nail in the Socialist Commie shit head’s strategy to enslave us all….Fuck you Europe Institution, Fuck You Globalists ……..

    Europe? Europe who? Good Riddance, Fucking good riddance…. White Cliffs of Dover? In your deepest deepest dreams lololol…….

    Bye Bye …….

  182. Jopo says:

    Hi Guys.

    Need a little help here in forming an argument. I wish to convey that Absolute Humidity does not warm our atmosphere and has no consistent positive correlation to Longwave radiation.

    I recently downloaded some hourly data of ERA-5 Hourly data for my hometown. They happen to have data for “long wave radiation, temp, RH etc etc. From temp and RH I was able to extract Absolute Humidity or Water Vapour. The data is only for 2019

    During the month July it is observed that Water Vapour and LW Radiation are opposite as obviously is Temp and Water Vapour.

    I then compared this to the month of January (wet season) where they do appear to correlate. Opposite to our Winter Months.

    This observation for the month of July totally proves that more Water Vapour does not cause higher temperature

    Absolute humidity formula I found is within pick at bottom right.

  183. CD Marshall says:

    Jopo,
    Sorry can’t go full into it at this time, wish Phillip M was about he’d be perfect to explain this.

    The confusion with water vapor is it is part of the cooling process. Large amounts of water vapor in the atmosphere means it has transferred large amounts of thermal energy from the surface already.
    That is a transference of energy from surface o the atmosphere, and sure it may warm the regional part of the atmosphere a little, but that is not going back to the surface to warm it up more. That energy has already left the surface and is not effectively returning.

    The water cycle if allowed to complete its process, both lifts thermal energy from the surface and in return cools the surface again as rain, it however does not increase surface temperatures. The presence of water vapor maintains a reduced temperature longer, usually overnight.

    Hope this made some sense, I’m on pain pills.

    In climate science, they do contradict themselves from source to source. Once source can claim water vapor absorbs LWR and increases surface temperature, exactly the opposite of the water vapor process. Some sources, correctly explain that water vapor reduces surface temps making temps at say the Tropics more bearable.

    I’ve heard estimates of the tropics topping off at 67C without water vapor relocating that thermal energy.

    Water vapor does not increase surface temps, not how the process works.

  184. Zelator says:

    Following on from the George Orwell post earlier, here is a free book by an author who is a favourite of mine, it’s available to read for free for the times stated below:

    FREE on Google Play: Promotion available from 13 to 18 of December 🎁

    Dan Desmarques is not his real name, it’s his pen name, one of many he uses. No-one knows who he actually is.
    He is though extremely enlightened and although English is not his first language but one of many,
    (which can make reading his books sometimes difficult to flow) nevertheless the message and the information is very impactful and important.

    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0013/5528/4527/products/Technocracy_530x.png?v=1604497720

    Technocracy: The New World Order of the Illuminati and The Battle Between Good and Evil:

    “Did you know that you were programmed to be who you are at this moment, with all of your predicted successes and failures?
    “Civilizations have been born and completed and then forgotten again and again. There is nothing new under the sun.
    What is has been. All that we learn and discover has existed before” (Colonel James Churchward, Freemason). However, “each generation imagines itself to be more intelligent than the one that went before it, and wiser than the one that comes after it” (George Orwell, Freemason).

    This said, it is possible that you have been able to, somehow, challenge the orthodoxy of the system in which you were raised, by achieving results that weren’t expected in your lifetime, while complying to many others that you weren’t in favor of, and yet you surely didn’t transform anything enough, or you would lose friends, relatives, jobs and even the opportunity of a love life.

    “Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with surprising effectiveness.
    A genuinely unfashionable opinion is almost never given a fair hearing” (George Orwell, Freemason).

    In this book, you will learn why the structure of mass thinking keeps you imprisoned to a reality that is far from your ideal potential. This book has been an Amazon Best Seller for more than eight years in a row, although previously published under other titles.

    There have been many attempts at removing the original version of this book from the market, but if you are reading these words, the opportunity to obtain this extremely valuable information is still and surely within your reach.”

                                     https://play.google.com/store/books/details/Dan_Desmarques_Technocracy?id=ZGbeDwAAQBAJ&utm
    
  185. Zelator says:

    “The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation, and go to the grave with the song still in them.” …. from the classic book “Walden” written by Henry David Thoreau.

    Time – From the Album “Dark Side of the Moon”
    Pink Floyd:

    “Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
    Fritter and waste the hours in an offhand way.
    Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town
    Waiting for someone or something to show you the way.
    Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain.
    You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today.
    And then one day you find ten years have got behind you.
    No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun.
    So you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it’s sinking
    Racing around to come up behind you again.
    The sun is the same in a relative way but you’re older,
    Shorter of breath and one day closer to death.
    Every year is getting shorter never seem to find the time.
    Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines
    Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way
    The time is gone, the song is over,
    Thought I’d something more to say.
    Home
    Home again
    I like to be here
    When I can
    When I come home
    Cold and tired
    It’s good to warm my bones
    Beside the fire
    Far away
    Across the field
    Tolling on the iron bell
    Calls the faithful to their knees
    To hear the softly spoken magic spell

    Is humanities time slipping away? The album above was so insightful back in 1973 it’s a classic by
    a band who are the good guys. Dave Gilmour and his team are one of the few not to have been indoctrinated by the richness of success.

  186. Zelator says:

    Our British Brexit struggle just like our cousins in the USA are joined by our Canadian cousins in this fight against tyranny. See here for Benjamin Fulford’s latest newsletter. It’s a German translation so some of it may sound off kilter, but it still has the facts as he sees them. Scroll to the bottom of the German Version for the English translation:

    https://trems.de/fulford.htm

  187. boomie789 says:

  188. boomie789 says:

    1 more try at that.

    I’m sure they’re Canadians who feel the same way.

  189. boomie789 says:

    More votes proven to have been switched. This happened all across the country.

  190. Zelator says:

    This is a excellent video that sums up how the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has infiltrated American Society meddling in its elections aided by its “Old Friends”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7LlDAUjQJo&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=StevenVan

    Who are these old friends?, well the Deep State and the western elite and the Democrat Party.

    Here’s what Professor Di Dongsheng, who is the vice dean of the School of International Studies at Renmin University of China had to say about his “old friends”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df1ViazTCn0&ab_channel=ChinaObserver-VisionTimes

    and here is what he claimed on 8th December that caused the furore:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQrXJhkdMGY&ab_channel=ChinaObserver-VisionTimes

  191. Zelator says:

    This is a excellent video that sums up how the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has infiltrated American Society, meddling in its elections aided by its “Old Friends”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7LlDAUjQJo&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=StevenVan

    Who are these old friends? Well the Deep State and the Western Elite particularly the DNC.

    Here’s what Professor Di Dongsheng, who is the Vice Dean of the School of International Studies at Renmin University of China, had to say about his “Old Friends”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df1ViazTCn0&ab_channel=ChinaObserver-VisionTimes

    and here is what he claimed on 8th December that caused the furore:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQrXJhkdMGY&ab_channel=ChinaObserver-VisionTimes

  192. Look at this mfer – deniers are forcing our hands to have to lock them away…!

  193. boomie789 says:

    Exactly.

    Somebodies hand is about to be forced all right…

  194. boomie789 says:

    Les Stroud confirmed liberal. Shouldn’t be surprised he’s been in the TV biz for decades now.

    He was moved by the Greta’s Speech? wtf…

  195. CD Marshall says:

    That M F stamp sounds suspiciously like EM F who uses purple as his bg and is a half wit Engineer who has convinced himself he’s a genius but doesn’t understand climate physics at all. Keep in mid I just explained to him that, ‘Gravity can be considered work with the lapse rate. That’s how we get potential energy/ kinetic energy in a parcel of moving air. Warm air rises as it cools it drops and then warms, by auto compression. The troposphere is a Carnot cycle, not a stagnant air cycle.’

    He doesn’t even know what the Bose-Einstein statistic is and thought I was making it up.
    Who no matter how many times I reset his “physics” he spins with this crap constantly:

    “https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapse_rate
    This I understand. This won’t heat a planet. Without the secondary greenhouse gases, the planet turns into an ice ball and there is no adiabatic lapse rate. Too much carbon in the atmosphere and the planet turns into Venus. You are still in the realm of magical thinking. It’s vulcanism that killed Venus and a deep Earth asteroid impact that created the Siberian Traps which caused the Permian extinction. CO2 and CH4 were still the culprits due to the burning of fossil fuels by vulcanism. If we continue to burn fossil fuels for an energy source, we will overheat the planet for human habitation. Why not simply switch to molten salt reactors which will save trillions of dollars in the long run? Why would anyone be interested in the continuation of a dirty energy source when there are far better energy sources available. Solar and wind prices continue to drop dramatically, far faster than anyone had predicted. In a few more years, your arguments are simply going to be out-competed into extinction anyway.

    “You are stuck at undergrad level physics” No, I’m a retired civil engineer. For 37 years I used my religion to make 6 figure money. One thing you do in engineering is compromise. If any part of any design is inaccurate, your project fails. 95% of what engineers do is blind faith. I was always astounded when I designed and built things that worked the first time. You have strange ideas that I cannot find any reference to, either in Google or any scientific reference.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bose%E2%80%93Einstein_statistics What this to do with global warming? You are still in the realm of magical thinking. This is what concerns me, nothing else. https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/CarbonCycle/page5.php

    Oh I challenged him to debate you since he claims he schooled 1000frolly, what a surprise he refused. Speaking of I never heard from that other PhD physicist again, have you?

  196. CD Marshall says:

    I just read one snippet from his article, “Because scientists know which wavelengths of energy each greenhouse gas absorbs, and the concentration of the gases in the atmosphere, they can calculate how much each gas contributes to warming the planet.”

    Again claiming radiative forcing equals heat with any measure of flux. Unbelievable how ignorant these people are.

  197. They just make stuff up. This is all it is. They just make it up. And doctor the data.

  198. CD Marshall says:

    You should freak out that M F guy and say so have you figured out the Bose-Eisenstein statistic yet?

  199. Zelator says:

    The road to Technocracy:

  200. Zelator says:

    Joe are some of my posts stuck in the WP trash line? The WP algorithm is junking key words by the looks of it. Not surprising really. It was only a matter of time before WP were affected, or should I say infected lol?

  201. Zelator says:

    It is clear by the authority and type of language being used by the medical professionals in this video and others that they believe there are substantial risks with this new vaccine.

    Be Clear We are being Warned NOT to get the Covid Vaccine:

    https://www.bitchute.com/embed/H9GyqoPMvfRa/

  202. Zelator says:

    This is a excellent video that sums up how the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has infiltrated American Society meddling in its elections aided by its “Old Friends”.

    Who are these Old Friends? Well the Deep State and the Western Elite particularly the DNC.

    Here’s what Professor Di Dongsheng, who is the Vice Dean of the School of International Studies at Renmin University of China, had to say about his “Old Friends”.

    and here is what he claimed on 8th December that caused the furore:

  203. Zelator says:

    Ok it seems that WP blocks CH–N –SE or C= commy party. C P P. Isn’t that odd? Ive been able to post everything else over the last two days other than the post containing the above words. Or then again it could be the name I gave out.

  204. Zelator says:

    I will just post the videos without comment and see if they get through:

    This is a excellent video that sums up how the Chi Com Pty has infiltrated American Society
    meddling in its elections aided by its “Old Friends”.

  205. Zelator says:

    Ha that worked. I’ve proved there are key words that WP are blocking to do with you know who.

  206. Zelator says:

    Also proves you can outwit an AI algorithm with reason and logic. One up human race..

  207. Zelator says:

    We now need to be smarter, we need to communicate in a language the AI doesn’t understand.
    That goes for mobile cell phones for email so these robots cannot capture our communications. We should shield our communications as much as possible and cover our cyber footprint. This is a war
    and knowledge is the key. How we communicate the knowledge is critical.

  208. boomie789 says:

    Epoch has been doing great work lately.

  209. boomie789 says:

    I think it still drops Adreno-chrome too. Just tried it.

  210. Zelator says:

    Yeh we could well do with moving to a private server. If Joe wanted to go that way I would be happy
    to pay a contribution to hosting costs.

  211. Zelator says:

    Nothing sinister, just that we could say what we wanted, without being censored.

  212. Zelator says:

    In hind sight that could be a problem to set up and monitor. Never mind. I was just thinking.

  213. boomie789 says:

    YouTube shadow bans comments too. Not to mention all the other shady crap google does in general.

    It’s annoying that everything seems to be controlled by the left.

  214. It’s a war on humanity…and indeed a war to destroy life on this planet.

  215. CD Marshall says:

    Do you think true fusion will ever be created or is all the funding needed for this funneled into green crap technology?

  216. boomie789 says:

    I don’t think we’ve exploited fission enough. I’d settle for that.

  217. boomie789 says:

    People are saying this lady passed out after taking the vaccine. I think the vaccine is given in two shots, so maybe she passed out after one shot. I think it’s common for people to vomit after being vaccinated but not pass out.

    Also, there is a story going around that people are getting Bell’s Palsy but I’m pretty sure that one is fake.

  218. boomie789 says:

    “According to the CDC, fainting can happen after many types of vaccinations. The CDC says although fainting has a variety of possible causes, it is usually triggered by pain or anxiety.

    Dover also told us she has a condition where she often faints when she feels pain, so this wasn’t a surprise to her that it happened. Stephanie LaChance spoke with her about the experience:”

    OOO she has a condition?

    Careful with these vaccination stories a lot of them are proving to be fake in my experience so far. Not to defend vaccinations, I’m still not taking that crap.

  219. boomie789 says:

    Perfect

  220. boomie789 says:

    There is a rumor going around that that lady who fainted died.

    https://www.facebook.com/tiffany.dover.520

    https://www.instagram.com/tiffany_dover_/

    Lots of fakery going on with it though so I don’t know if it’s true or not.

  221. boomie789 says:

    https://principia-scientific.org/the-dishonesty-of-greenhouse-gases/

    That website is acting weird. I think it has something to do with the .org/.com switching.
    This guy is pretty much saying what you’re saying. If you haven’t seen this yet.

  222. boomie789 says:

    If it doesn’t work in Chrome try Dissenter.

  223. boomie789 says:

    She supposedly resurfaced but people in the comments still aren’t buying it, lol. I admit she does seem to have a completely different hairline now.

    If she would just make a Instagram post or something saying the rumors are false this would all be over with. Weird.

  224. boomie789 says:

    The eyes do look right though.

  225. CD Marshall says:

    The one on the left looks better than the right. The right one looks like her neck is swollen, face swollen and the eyes of someone heavily medicated.

  226. boomie789 says:

    @CD Marshall

    The one on the right is a bit after she fainted getting the vaccine. The left is the most recent.

    This is supposed to be her brother.

    Just concocted my own little theory. She isn’t dead, but she is having some adverse effects related to the vaccine. Something not even that bad maybe, but, she is still being hidden from public in fear of backlash.

  227. boomie789 says:

    Or she is fine but just hiding because she is embarrassed she fainted?

    I have no idea really

  228. boomie789 says:

    “How the Chinese Government Fabricates Social
    Media Posts for Strategic Distraction, not Engaged
    Argument”

    https://gking.harvard.edu/files/gking/files/50c.pdf?m=1463683069

    “We estimate that the government fabricates and posts about 448 million social media comments a year. In contrast to prior
    claims, we show that the Chinese regime’s strategy is to avoid arguing with skeptics
    of the party and the government, and to not even discuss controversial issues. We
    show that the goal of this massive secretive operation is instead to distract the public
    and change the subject, as most of the these posts involve cheerleading for China,
    the revolutionary history of the Communist Party, or other symbols of the regime.
    We discuss how these results fit with what is known about the Chinese censorship
    program, and suggest how they may change our broader theoretical understanding of
    “common knowledge” and information control in authoritarian regimes.”

    “The people hired for this purpose are known formally as “Internet commentators” (网络评论员) but more widely as “50c party” members (五毛党),
    so-called because they are rumored to be paid 50 cents (5 jiao, 角, or about US$0.08) to
    write and post each comment (Tong and Lei, 2013). Although we show that this rumor
    turns out to be incorrect, we adopt this widely used term to denote social media comments
    posted at the direction or behest of the regime, as if they were the opinions of ordinary
    people”

    There is an Information/Propaganda war going on. China is just one player too.

  229. CD Marshall says:

    Boomie it’s easy to do when you have a population like China needing jobs, you can literally employ a million people to social media manipulation.

    Put thousands of well educated coders in a room and give them all the means they need to hack everything they can.

  230. Joseph E Postma says:

    Can you imagine, imagine just how pathetic you must be to even begin to engage in that…let alone fully develop it.

    I’ve been noticing comments like this for years. Particularly you know where…lol.

  231. boomie789 says:

    That hospital where that lady fainted made their twitter private.
    People still keep asking about Tiffany.

  232. Ultimate retardation.

  233. CD Marshall says:

    Verified by “experts” which would be your midwit telling the dimwits how to control the conversation from an upperwit.

    Conspiracy theory, experts, consensus all keywords used as controllers by the Left activist regime.

  234. They’ve developed the algorithm for generating massive and utmost and total stupidity. Can you imagine. This is what some people do. They figure out how to generate and sustain stupidity.

  235. CD Marshall says:

    Look at this sophist troll from MIT…

    ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tQP4Qh0jjI

  236. boomie789 says:

    @CD Marshall

    That graph from is from Patrick Moore.

  237. CD Marshall says:

    How much ‘heat’ can CO2 and NO hold you might ask if you’re an idiot. Why this much…

    “In some storms cooling is so intense that the global thermosphere quickly tends to an overcooled state (poststorm onset temperature lower than prestorm temperature). Jacchia [1970] showed such a global temperature effect extending from 340 to 1000 km in the May 1967 Great Storm, during which satellite tracking was greatly disrupted [Knipp et al., 2016]. After sharp global temperature increases of ~400 K, which appeared within hours of the storm onset, the global temperature dramatically dropped by 500 K, thus creating for a short while an atmosphere that was ~100 K cooler than the prestorm temperature value.”

    https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2016SW001567

  238. CD Marshall says:

    I just gave Potholer another invite.

    “You’re all a pack of idiots. Potholer you are cordially invited to debate another scientist on climate change in an open debate. So confident are you why would you decline? I’ll contact him and set it up. Another physicist who was so sure of himself about global warming has also declined to the debate. Funny how bold you are when not confronted by science. Don’t bother trolls, I already ripped through you like cheese, albeit denial is your base intelligence.”

    Come to think of it maybe I’ll contact the other guy too again, just in case he forgot?

  239. CD Marshall says:

    Am I missing something here?

    CO2 in a relaxed state is not IR active exactly like Nitric Oxide but does that mean it can absorb other rays?

    Once CO2 is heated it does emit IR but does not absorb IR photons, both are IR active after spinning to a higher vibrational state.

    So how would CO2 absorb EM Radiation by way of photons from the surface? It’s main function would be reflection and scattering, very much like it is in the upper atmosphere with NO.

    So in simple conclusion, CO2 is never really doing any function but cooling the atmosphere by absorbing kinetic energy and re-radiating it.

    When would it be able to absorb a photon?

    Can it absorb a photon as it is returning to a lower vibrational state (ground state)?

    Plus it is Ramen active in its symmetric stretch mode.

  240. MP says:

    Hi Joseph.

    Feel free to try to contact Scott Adams for an online interview.

    Scott Adams is no climate scientist. He is specilized in persuasion. Would be interesting to see you persuade him and his 665k followers.

  241. CD Marshall says:

    JP,
    I asked Rosh to send me the model data, I said they all say its in the models so show me the actual data…This was his reply.

    AllAboutClimate
    54 minutes ago
    Most Model data is publicly available on the KNMI Climate Explorer Database: https://climexp.knmi.nl/start.cgi

  242. CD Marshall says:

    I’m not seeing the input data for the models on that site. Anyone?

    https://climexp.knmi.nl/start.cgi

  243. Joseph E Postma says:

    Tweeted at him, MP. See if he responds.

  244. MP says:

    @ Joseph

    Great.

    Scott Adams told in his last vid that he gets goose bumps and a elevated state of mind/understanding when someone can bring a very complex subject into a single point that can be looked up and unquestional proofs something is true or not

    That is right in your ballpark. He had an interview with a Luke warmer a while ago, so he should be open for that kind of discussion, the luke warmer couldn’t convince scott tho.

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