Geraint Hughes – Experimental Debunk of Climate Science

There is no, and never has been, ANY experimental evidence for the basis of climate alarm and climate science. The entire field of climate is basically simply a pseudoscience of political expedience which ends with the vilification of the life molecule of carbon dioxide.

Read about Geraint’s experiment here:

Niblet No 6 – NO ‘greenhouse effect’ exists

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441 Responses to Geraint Hughes – Experimental Debunk of Climate Science

  1. As simply based on fundamental logic and on the concepts of cause and effect, an epistemological examination of the geochemical analyses performed on the Vostok ice cores invalidates the marked greenhouse effect on past climate usually assigned to CO2 and CH4.

    Richet, P., 2021. The temperature–CO 2 climate connection: an epistemological reappraisal of ice-core messages. History of Geo-and Space Sciences, 12(1), pp.97-110.

  2. Look at the disclaimer the psychos put on the article, and barring access to it. So that’s the trick now…accept it but then bury it and now they claim copyright so that the author can’t post it elsewhere.

    But yes…basic cause and effect debunk climate science.

  3. Philip Mulholland says:

    Already saved 7 times on the Wayback Machine
    The first save on 27th May does not have the disclaimer. The kickback starts on 1st June.
    I have added a page update for 10th July.

  4. boomie789 says:

    Well done Geraint, and thank you Postma.

    Keep thinking about how to gain attention and spread the word.

  5. CD Marshall says:

    Great work indeed by both of you, I concur Boomie! Insanity is now the rulers of the world.

  6. CD Marshall says:

    So Joseph since nobody is “qualified” I think your PhD thesis should be your model.

  7. Yah really…a PhD thesis on a round earth with hot sunshine on one side at any given time…lol.

  8. justgivemeall says:

    Seems odd doesn’t it how quick they all are to criticize these experiments and yet with untold resources they can’t come up with an experiment that would prove their case. I applaud Geraint for his dedication to this cause.
    Barry

  9. CD Marshall says:

    You have to change the name though it needs to be so long you have to use an acronym or something to show your vast intelligence and an entire paragraph just to explain the name of the model and a few pages to explain the model and then a hundred pages to explain the Sun heats the Earth and slap greenhouse effect in it somewhere (Maxwell’s version, naturally).

  10. CD Marshall says:

    Oh and then be prepared for an entire post of arguments on something as simple as the lapse rate as you have already witnessed with these physicists and climate scientists and I have dealt with. They are bent on claiming ghgs influences the lapse rate or simply denying the lapse rate even exists without ghgs.

  11. They’re all just retarded robots at this point.

  12. CD Marshall says:

    If two wind patterns collide it either breaks the pattern, causing it to be null if the forces are equal, or reduces the pattern and sometimes redirects the original path. If those wind patterns intercept along the same path it can increase the wave’s power.

    Now add temperature to the power of the wind pattern example and you get it. A stronger colder wave will reduce temperature from a weaker warmer wave, not add to it. From that you can mix and match all types of scenarios. A warmer wave intercepting another warmer wave will not double the temperature of the wind pattern either but it will increase the energy of the wind pattern, not the temperature.

    In climate science, light waves colliding in opposite directions always equals a stronger wave. If you break down simple QED into relatable examples, the climate science becomes even more absurd.
    In climate science claims have been made that photons even from an ice cube (usually around 10.7 microns peak), will increase surface temperature as all energy absorbed must equal more heat.

  13. CD Marshall says:

    A comment from a blog a decade ago…

    “The whole greenhouse gas theory falls to pieces when you consider the total theoretical radiation at noon in a place like Phoenix: 1200 watts directly from the Sun plus 400 watts of “backradiation” = 1600 watts total. That is equivalent to a blackbody radiating at 278 F (137 C). If this were true, I could design one hell of a power plant (steam turbine) to generate electricity in Phoenix or the Sahara. Something is WRONG with the frigging theory!”

    Hilarious.

  14. boomie789 says:

    It really is shameful PhDs don’t get it.

    “You should divide the sunlight by 4 because geometry herp derp”.

    Then normal people hear that and they think that is ok and totally makes sense….

  15. CD Marshall says:

    Part of a comment from Dr. Ed. Berry, so freak’n funny and so sadly true on point…

    “Chuck does not need a stinkin’ Ph.D. or a ton of peer-reviewed papers to prove he is the best meteorologist I know.

    Take your own case – a Ph.D. in Physics who has spent his life teaching at a university – but you are a moron when it comes to climate physics. It would not matter if you had a million peer-reviewed papers. You would still be a moron. Even your question proves you are a moron.

    I am about to dump you from commenting on my website. You are becoming like David Appel, another Ph.D. in physics who has demonstrated that he is one of the dumbest guys I know.”

  16. Ah, I miss the days of just debunking retarded Greenhouse Effect believers. Such innocent times. These days I’m being arrested for failing to wear a mask outside. The retards have moved on to even more retarded claims with even harsher penalties for not becoming retarded with them

  17. It really does feel quaint continuing on with this line, indeed, wwf. I feel that for sure. How far we’ve fallen.

  18. CD Marshall says:

    wwf were you really arrested or was that metaphoric (I’m hoping)?

  19. Philip Mulholland says:

    Dr. Ed says:
    July 4, 2021 at 5:09 am

    CDM
    Awesome comment by Ed Berry..
    Thanks for the heads up.

  20. Philip Mulholland says:

    CDM
    That is a stunningly informative post on the recent PNW heatwave by Chuck Wiese on Ed Berry’s blog.
    Solar heat – not CO2 – caused the June 2021 heatwave

    Chuck Wiese’s conclusion:

    But from this data, a later summer heatwave will never reach the records we just set.

    My takeaway message from that:
    It’s the summer sun, stupid.

  21. I was really arrested. 8 days ago. Haven’t been put in a cell (yet), as they let me go after they got my name and address, but I may get a court summons or fine in the mail. Don’t worry, they will arrest everyone here eventually for climate denial as well. They just need to round up the anti coerced vaccine people first.

  22. Philip Mulholland says:

    WWF
    You live in Australia, right?
    The hottest,driest, dustiest continent on the planet.
    That Australia?

  23. Philip Mulholland says:

    And I forgot to even mention the sunshine.

  24. PB2505 says:

    Your a total fool if you dont understand the basic geometry as used in climate science , which ignores the reality of night and day…..because the atmosphere creates 2 times the amount of energy than the earth recieves from the sun…..this is what is referred to as the greenhouse effect…… This has been well known in science for over a 100 years……Its kind of like the earth being wrapped in a mylar blanket that lets in heat and stops heat from escaping at the same time because heat can pilie up……..Look no further than Venus….. Climate science doesnt need experimental data because the Sun can only heat the Earth to -18C inspite of the fact that the moon is heated to 121C proving that if the earths rotation was slower we would be hotter

    There you go…… I hope my post clears up any doubt

    :LOL

  25. boomie789 says:

    @PB2505 You’ve been around ey. You forgot that radiative heat transfer is exempt from the laws of thermodynamics.
    XD

  26. PB2505 says:

    Thanks Boomie

    In the words of Warren Buffett

    “If someone was watching us from Mars they’d be scratching their heads”

    I prefer Joe’s analogy…… They are Freaks haha

  27. CD Marshall says:

    “Hottest June Ever”

  28. PB2505
    You’ve been talking to my brother in law haven’t you? Or did you just record him and transpose?

  29. CD Marshall says:

    Careers: Quantum Physics

    With a degree in this field, you can be a theoretical or experimental physicist, a researcher and even work with a quantum computer. Not only can you work in the engineering field (the highest paid jobs at NASA are the engineers), but in the world of medicine too, as quantum mechanics are used to make different compounds. A quantum physicist takes home an average annual pay of US$120,172.

  30. Philip Mulholland Yes. I live in Perth. Real name, Stephen Wells.
    Not that it’s particularly hot or dry at the moment. Winter months have cold mornings, lots of rainy days and moderate maximum temperatures. Similar climate to LA in Perth

  31. G’day Stephan. Rick….Brisbane.
    Planning to fly into Perth next month assuming that idiot of yours doesn’t close the borders if Qld gets a hot spot. Of course our current 30 whole cases just caused a lock down for 4 days…lifted now, but it is winter time and tomorrow is a new day!

  32. CD Marshall says:

    Stephan, Rick
    Where did the Oz nickname come from?

  33. immortal600 says:

    CD, thanks for your response over on Dr. Berry’s site.

    JOE! I asked you a question via messenger. I know you are a busy guy. Did I do something to anger you? If so, I apologize.

    George

  34. Sorry, where was this question?

  35. CD Marshall says:

    @immortal600

    No problem, happy to help you if I can.

  36. immortal600 says:

    Joe, on messenger (FB). We are friends on FB.

  37. immortal600 says:

    I was asking about Robert Kernodle and the guy who made very long posts a while back about the atmosphere being “a cold nitrogen bath”. I hope both are ok!

  38. Oh man I don’t go on fb. Can you post here? Or email if private?

  39. immortal600 says:

    Joe, I understand. I don’t go on FB either but I do use the messenger feature. I just repeated above what I was basically asking on messenger. Thanks!

  40. immortal600 says:

    For CD. I have followed your comments for several years and I commend you on what you have learned as a layman! I am impressed! I hope to attain a close knowledge base and appreciate all that Joe has posted on the science. I agree with it 100%.

  41. Joseph E Postma says:

    Yes, CD is quite impressive 🙂 Never seen his face.

    Robert pops in from time to time, I think he’s doing OK.

    I don’t recall about the “cold nitrogen bath” thing, but that is indeed a good description.

    How can you stand in a cold atmosphere and claim that while it makes you cold it also heats you up!!?? That’s the position of these idiots.

  42. immortal600 says:

    Joe, was it Allen Eltor or something like that? He was here on a regular basis several years ago. His posts were somewhat lengthy.

  43. I asked Eltor to stop writing such lengthy rambling comments. And so he did.

  44. immortal600 says:

    Oh ok. I get that ! You are right. His comments were way too long and basically said the same thing over and over. He was entertaining though!

    I have a link that I’d like you to evaluate. These guys are basically saying that more CO2 is actually a coolant assuming all else remains the same. They use Dalton’s Law and known properties of gases such as specific heat. The math looks straight forward. I can’t see fault in what they write. Can you or someone else comment?

    https://www.calqlata.com/Science/Atmosphere.html

  45. boomie789 says:

  46. CD Marshall says:

    I have an old web site never use it anymore that was back in the day when my brain was in constant overdrive and I hardly slept ten years ago.

    https://cdmarshall101.blogspot.com/

  47. CD
    Combination of ‘Wizzard of Oz’ and Aussie. We shorten everything we can down to the least syllables….unless it is already short as it will go, so we will add a syllable. John….Johno!
    But that is old school, pre cultural devolution.

  48. CD Marshall says:

    That pic all the way at the bottom of the blog is me waving in an actual cloud, I was at the Appalachian Mts on the peak of Mt. Mitchell and a low cloud formation moved in.

    Do you know what the first thing is you notice at the elevation? No birds, no insects buzzing, nothing, it’s as if sound doesn’t exist. The second thing was how thin the air was which really sneaks up on you.

  49. immortal600 says:

    CD, a personal question, if I may. Roughly how old are you? Nice blog you have/had. You look young in your pic there. I am asking because I wonder if this old dog can still learn new tricks. LOL

    I have been to Mt. Mitchell. I am descended from the man the county seat is named, Bakersville, Mitchell county, NC

  50. CD Marshall says:

    immortal600 Some international kids were playing blue grass on banjo and fiddle when I was there, very talented. The best part was watching an Outhouse Race which was held in one of the Appalachian towns we visited each year. My brother wanted to trek the entire Appalachian trail I told him he was nuts.

    Age is not a restriction on learning, many people don’t get PhDs until well after 50. Overwhelming your mind is the biggest hinderance to learning, we all learn differently so you have to understand your learning curve, strengths and weaknesses. You have to balance strengths and weaknesses. The human brain is divided into analytical and creative, they do not cross. Work on one at a time it’s the only way to learn. You shut off analytical to allow the creative side free, you shut off creative to allow your brain to learn.

    The analytical and creative do not play nice together.

  51. immortal600 says:

    CD, thanks for your response. Do you think you will start your blog back up or are you done with that?

  52. CD Marshall says:

    Never say never but for now yeah I’m done with it.

  53. CD Marshall says:

    We know the troposphere expands when heated, which in turn compensates the cooling process of T^4.

    So if claims of the tropical “bulge” is true, what could be all the causes for it? Thermal expansion could be one, even internal thermal expansion. Could the decaying magnetic field cause expansion?

    If internal thermal expansion is the cause of the bulging tropics we are talking a possible global seismic event.

    By all means keep funding wasted research into GHGE. Maybe the plan is for the Elites to escape to Mars.

    Would make a great sci-fi flick.

  54. “Would make a great sci-fi flick.”
    I think that Douglas Adams already covered this with the story of the Golgafrinchan Ark Fleet Ship B

  55. CD Marshall says:

    Looked it up, ” the Ark Ship B Golgafrinchans were a ‘bunch of useless idiots’.” Sounds about right.

  56. CD Marshall says:

    If I may superimpose the original text with selected liberties,

    “They begin running {Mars} in accordance with their previous useless ways. Arthur and Ford agree that this explains a lot about {the previous} Earth inhabitants {and futile attempts at removing a trace beneficial gas from the atmosphere and in effect, killing off most of the inhabitants}.”

  57. CD Marshall says:

    Law of Heat Exchange= Q- = (mCp DeltaT) hot = (mCp DeltaT) cold = Q+

    When heat is transferred from a hot body to a cold body, the amount of heat received by the cold body equals the amount of heat lost by the cold body.

    Q=heat absorbed
    m=mass of object
    Cp=specific heat
    DeltaT=change in temperature before and after heat exchange.

    I have had “climate scientists” claim the reason the energy received by the surface always equals heat is that it is not coming from another “body” intersecting to create equilibrium. It is “adding” energy to another body.

    A summary of said arguments:

    We aren’t saying CO2 increases temperature, we are saying that…the rate of energy loss is slower. Thus the new equilibrium state is higher.

    More arguments,
    a) that the amount of energy per time radiated to space by earth must match the amount of energy per the same time irradiated on earth by the sun.

    b) that the surface of earth has a temperature of +15°C on average

    c) that the energy per time radiated by such a surface at such a temperature exceeds the the solar energy per same time absorbed by earth by far

    d) that c) is calculated by the inequation average of (sum T^4) > average of (sum T)^4 which gives that the temperature at which according to S-B-law the surface of earth radiates the same energy per time than the sun radiates into the system per same time is exceeded by at least 33K.

    e) that the balance claimed by a) is maintained by the fact that not all of the surface radiation evades to space but partly the atmosphere radiates to space from altitudes being much colder than the surface}}

    So the problem is actually that the earth (per surface temperature and emission in the complete absence of IR-active gases and clouds in the atmosphere) emits too much theoretically.

    NOTE: Kirchhoff’s Law needs to be applied to the entire system not the surface.

  58. J Cuttance says:

    CD is it actually “energy received by the surface”, or is there a more accurate way of putting it.

  59. Joseph E Postma says:

    “energy received by the surface” is a way for them to get around the need for that energy to be HEAT. HEAT received by the surface can do something, just like work done upon a surface can do something. The energy has to be in the form of heat…but they just phrase it as to say “energy received by the surface” and expect most people as laymen, and even scientists, to forget the distinction that the energy has to be heat…not merely any energy, but heat.

  60. CD Marshall says:

    Joe, that’s amusing since they use conservation of energy to justify energy as heat when needed and the law of heat exchange as energy. Slippery little buggers aren’t they?

  61. CD Marshall says:

    Funny I didn’t catch that,

    When heat is transferred from a hot body to a cold body, the amount of heat received by the cold body equals the amount of heat lost by the (HOT) body.

    It was correct in the equation.

  62. CD Marshall says:

    Sometimes I’m broke and that’s why I don’t pay attention 🙂

  63. J Cuttance says:

    JP, so as no work gets done, the warm surface simply doesn’t register, in any way, shape or form, the colder object, even by slowing down emissions.

  64. CD Marshall says:

    If I were writing the Spencer Law it would have been correct.

    When heat is transferred from a cold body to a warmer body, the amount of heat received by the warm body equals the amount of heat lost by the cold body making the warmer body even warmer by the cold body.

    Please note this is not a real law.

  65. Joseph E Postma says:

    Yes exactly…no work gets done by energy from a cooler source. No there is no “slowed emission”…

  66. CD Marshall says:

    “However, to answer the question on whether the sun is causing Earth’s global warming, there is plentiful data on solar activity and Earth’s climate. Many papers have examined this data, concluding the correlation between sun and climate ended in the 70’s when the modern global warming trend began.

    So the argument that Martian warming disproves anthropogenic global warming fails on two points – there is little empirical evidence that Mars is warming and Mars’ climate is primarily driven by dust and albedo, not solar variations.” SS

  67. boomie789 says:

    Is the USA government assassinating world leaders who don’t follow the covid agenda?

  68. CD Marshall says:

    Joseph you should go on Twitch have live talks and answer questions on climate science, just don’t moon anyone and you’ll be fine.

  69. immortal600 says:

    CD, that David Andrews dude is an ignorant ass with a PhD that doesn’t mean squat. What a clown!

  70. CD Marshall says:

    Lot’s of clowns in this world these days, although he is proof it is political.

  71. justgivemeall says:

    https://www.canindia.com/wobbling-moon-climate-change-to-raise-flood-risk-in-2030s-nasa/
    Now with all those sea level rise the moons wobble will cause flooding in twenty years lol
    They just can’t let it go

  72. CD Marshall says:
  73. boomie789 says:


    from u/LackmustestTester on https://www.reddit.com/r/RealClimateSkeptics/

  74. boomie789 says:

    The mass looting in South Africa is more organized than you may think. Reminds me of similar accusations of the riots here in America.

    People being “bused in” by the thousands. They are destroying the food supply lines and distribution centers.

  75. CD Marshall says:

    BOOMIE,
    Only the beginning, the hatreds are being fueled and the intention is to make it far worse.

    https://www.npr.org/2021/07/18/1017657465/inequity-is-behind-the-violent-unrest-in-south-africa

    Inequity 1% no jobs unfair… sound familiar? The rules for radicals is to make chaos for free trade and human rights.

  76. CD Marshall says:

    South Africa has been a mess for decades.

  77. boomie789 says:

    Used to be a first world nuclear power. Now it’s one of the worst places on earth.

  78. boomie789 says:

    i’m being told this guy is the, or one of, the inventors of mRNA vaccines.

    Why is he scared? he shared this.

    here is an archived link.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20210717172112/https://principia-scientific.com/four-new-discoveries-about-safety-and-efficacy-of-covid-vaccines/

    “Doctors for Covid Ethics has sent the following letter to tens of thousands of doctors in Europe, summarising four recent scientific findings critical to the COVID-19 vaccination program. The letter explains each finding as it relates to the biology of COVID-19 vaccines, including interactions with the immune system.

    Taken together, the letter warns that these new pieces of evidence force all physicians administering COVID-19 vaccines to re-evaluate the merits of COVID-19 vaccination, in the interests of their own ethical standing, and their patients’ safety and health.”

  79. boomie789 says:
  80. CD Marshall says:

    Someone worth following on Twitter

  81. CD Marshall says:

    HADCRUT which always shows the highest possible “warming” (in my opinion anyway)

    “The HadCRUT4 Global Temperature Dataset Now Unveils A Cooling Trend For The Last 7.5 Years”

    https://notrickszone.com/2021/07/19/the-hadcrut4-global-temperature-dataset-now-unveils-a-cooling-trend-for-the-last-7-5-years/

  82. CD Marshall says:

    “Just in time, HadCRUT5 will be introduced soon as the full replacement for HadCRUT4. There will likely be significant changes to the data, including the elimination of this most recent temperature pause.

    It has happened before. HadCRUT3 identified a cooling trend from 1998-2012. So the HadCRUT4 version changed the data just in time for the 5th IPCC assessment (AR5, 2013). The 1998-2001 temperatures were allowed to stay the same, but an additional 0.1 to 0.2°C was tacked on to anomalies from 2002 onwards. The effect was to transform the 1998-2012 slight cooling in HadCRUT3 into a 0.05°C warming in HadCRUT4.”

  83. CD Marshall says:

    https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2015/02/26/new-result-shows-co2-has-almost-no-effect-on-temperature/

    Since there is an even longer term ~1000 yr oscillation evident in the proxy temperature record, running through the Minoan warm period, Halstatt disaster, Roman warm period, dark ages, Medieval warm period, little ice age and right up to the modern warm period, we should probably be wary of ascribing any upward temperature trend underlying the ~60 year oscillations to increases in trace gases in the atmosphere too.

    Our simple solar system harmonic resonance model (yellow curve), which provides a potential explanation for these longer term oscillations, well reproduces changes in solar activity as reconstructed from the deposition of the 10Be solar proxy (blue curve), which itself seems to match this history of millennial up and downs in climatic conditions.

    salvador-4k-annotated

    The CO2 driven climate theorists are completely unable to hindcast climatic change back thousands of years like this, so the challenge for them is to justify their certainty. MET Office scientist Richard Betts told me on twitter yesterday that they are only claiming that CO2 took over as the dominant climate forcing in recent decades. That sounds like special pleading for a failed theory to me.

  84. CD Marshall says:

    Graph didn’t show…

  85. CD Marshall says:

    Sorry last post is for Postma language only…

  86. CD Marshall says:

    If you were to “flip” that graph it would be perfectly clear that cold dominates this interglacial climate.

  87. CD Marshall says:

    “The Polar Vortex is nothing more than a hurricane over the pole”, great analogy whoever said it.

  88. CD Marshall says:

    Speaking of DawnT90…case and point of HadCRUT removing cooling trends.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6zeb6lXsAAMIVU?format=jpg&name=medium

  89. CD Marshall says:

    …and exaggerating warming trends. Wow look at the deceit in that!

  90. CD Marshall says:

    I’m back on Twitter with anew account (hasn’t been shadow banned yet).

    Follow me so I can find you guys. JP I searched for you nothing showed up?

  91. CD Marshall says:

    I don’t know who this DawnTJ90 is but I wish you could interview her. Man she is on target. Her tweets are all bombs on climate clowns.

  92. CD Marshall says:

    This is what an actual cross section over a sphere looks like.

    https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stardestroyer.net%2FEmpire%2FTech%2FShields%2FShield1.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stardestroyer.net%2FEmpire%2FTech%2FShields%2FShield1.html&tbnid=3MLTtcDJoV1v4M&vet=12ahUKEwjpxIm90PXxAhUGZawKHan7C3MQMygGegUIARDSAQ..i&docid=k_fkQJS6zTovNM&w=638&h=281&q=star%20trek%20shields&ved=2ahUKEwjpxIm90PXxAhUGZawKHan7C3MQMygGegUIARDSAQ

    Last I checked the Sun isn’t splashing over ours.

  93. CD Marshall says:

    In case the first one doesn’t work.

  94. CD Marshall says:

    I think its pretty clear CO2 is not the problem with our oceans…
    https://www.iqair.com/earth

  95. boomie789 says:

    @CD Marshall

    Not sure what I’m looking at here from my phone.
    https://www.iqair.com/earth

  96. CD Marshall says:

    Air pollution, (some pretty toxic) comes out of China, N Africa and NE Russia, this fallout goes into the oceans…

    Australia actually gives out alerts to boaters for the China Sea, yeah it can get that bad.

  97. CD Marshall says:

    NOTE: The Paris Agreement does NOTHING to stop this.

  98. It’s not about actual pollution. It’s about destroying the planet and destroying humans.

  99. CD Marshall says:

    Isn’t it an insane world where we have actual pollution that is toxic and killing people and yet they focus on CO2 and are bankrolled by China, Germany gets oil from Russia…

  100. CD Marshall says:

    If you ever get bored make that Venus video or at least a post. Still see so many duped by Venus, even those who don’t accept the RGHE religion. They still think Venus “traps” heat thanks to propaganda NASA and tree hugger Hansen and friends.

  101. tom0mason says:

    Ron Clutz has an interesting reproduction of Christos Vournas blog at https://rclutz.com/2021/07/21/how-to-calculate-planetary-temperatures/ .
    It’s called “How to Calculate Planetary Temperatures” and an interesting write up it is. His calculations involve assessing planets and moons as spheroid object and NOT flat circular flat plates.

    We have moved further from the incomplete effective temperature equation
    Te = [ (1-a) S / 4 σ ]¹∕ ⁴
    (which is in common use right now, but actually it is an incomplete planet Te equation and that is why it gives us very confusing results)
    a – is the planet’s surface average albedo
    S – is the solar flux, W/m²
    σ = 5,67*10⁻⁸ W/m²K⁴, the Stefan-Boltzmann constant
    We have discovered the Planet Without-Atmosphere Mean Surface Temperature Equation
    Tmean = [ Φ (1-a) S (β*N*cp)¹∕ ⁴ /4σ ]¹∕ ⁴ (1)
    The Planet Without-Atmosphere Mean Surface Temperature Equation is also based on the radiative equilibrium and on the Stefan-Boltzmann Law.
    The Equation is being completed by adding to the incomplete Te equation the new parameters Φ, N, cp and the constant β.

    Φ – is the dimensionless Solar Irradiation accepting factor
    [Φ – is the dimensionless Solar Irradiation accepting factor. It is a realizing that a sphere’s surface absorbs the incident solar irradiation not as a disk of the same diameter, but accordingly to its spherical shape. For a smooth spherical surface Φ = 0,47 ]
    N – rotations /day, is the planet’s axial spin
    cp – cal /gr*oC, is the planet’s surface specific heat
    β = 150 days*gr*oC/rotation*cal – is the Rotating Planet Surface Solar Irradiation Absorbing-Emitting Universal Law constant.

  102. boomie789 says:

    Looks like something one of you guys might be interested in.

  103. boomie789 says:

    I bet Canadian summers are nice.

  104. boomie789 says:

    https://www.cristos-vournas.com/

    r/LackmustestTester wanted me to share this with you. I guess he wants to know what you think.

    I told him he could just post a comment on your blog and ask. That’s what I’m doing.

    Kind of looks like what CD Marshall posted.

  105. boomie789 says:

    O not CD Marshall, tom0manson.

    It is a neat read it has a bunch of little factoids in it.

    The equation before shows the real measured temperature in space is my understanding. The entire Temperature of earth measured from space is -18C. Earth’s average surface temperature on the sunlit half is 15C. So this guy found a way to plug in some more variables and get the real measured average surface temperature of the lit side of the planet. I think?

    I wonder what a world with 12hr days would be like. It would be hotter for sure. Well, there would be less cooling off time.

  106. CD Marshall says:

    JP what paper are you trying to get published that they keep saying they aren’t “qualified” to review? Is it that paper you sent to AMS? That seemed pretty simple and straightforward to me. 🤷‍♂️

  107. CD Marshall says:

    Dr. Nikolov & Dr. Zeller

  108. CD Marshall says:

    Another one,

  109. boomie789 says:

    wait 30C is the average of the sunlit side, 15C is the measured average surface temperature, I think.

  110. CD Marshall says:

    Ideally you really need an average temperature according to atmospheric cells divided by hemisphere. “Global average’ really is redundant and pointless. Even at a higher latitude the tempts are not consistent, the temperature zones round the tropics is much higher.

    Middle of the Troposphere:
    https://www.ventusky.com/?p=14;169;1&l=temperature-500hpa&t=20200121/0000

  111. boomie789 says:

    Right I was trying to think of what that 15C average surface temperature means exactly.

  112. CD Marshall says:

    The average tropics is around 30C you are correct which actually is 50% of the Earth’s surface.

    Philip did some work on that…
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/334480358_Calibrating_the_CERES_Image_of_the_Earth's_Radiant_Emission_to_Space

  113. CD Marshall says:

    Joseph some of these “physics” clowns on Twitter claim they’d debate a physicist on climate science. I have my doubts but you want to meet them?

  114. Sure. Haven’t logged in since you posted your link but I think I’m on there as climate of Sophistry.

  115. CD Marshall says:

    This is one…

    This is another…

  116. CD Marshall says:

    Hold on trying to find you on there

  117. CD Marshall says:

    I found you 🙂

  118. CD Marshall says:

    I found Dr. Holmes on there too said to visit us more often.

  119. CD Marshall says:

    Were you able to get on it? I went to your site and Twitter knocked me out made me do a security check. I got back on it but I’m suspicious.

  120. Not yet. Maybe later. But yes they have me flagged as a VERY suspicious account because of climate change denial…lol…once I tagged Michael Mann and called him a flat earther and had a torrent of losers flagging me for it. He blocked me like a coward…lol.

  121. CD Marshall says:

    Maybe do a new account I had to? Changed email (burner emails as I call them) I had like ten of them when I was writing.

  122. CD Marshall says:

    Then again I put in a new MOBO so my IP AD changed too guess why I didn’t get flagged as I was banned on the old account for a while.

  123. CD Marshall says:

    Never even knew why I ws banned.

  124. CD Marshall says:

    Joe don’t think they’d be much of a challenge, just might be fun to chat them up though. As usual they are more confident than they should be and less educated than they are aware of.

  125. CD Marshall says:

    These guys are a hoot almost crying that all IR is absorbed into the surface and HAS to raise temperature.

  126. boomie789 says:

    Why can’t they grasp that?

  127. CD Marshall says:

    He’s an arrogant F I just left him with this, “Well enough educating for you one day. Learn more impress me and maybe I’ll see if he can come over later.” Joe you would destroy him he’s an idiot. Can’t win in the science so “I don’t know what I’m talking about” ha maybe you get an account under JPE. Them boys need some education. Like three of them over there, trolls come in threes.

  128. CD Marshall says:

    Some gems from the nuthouse”
    Troll
    “Oh, one more thing. A supplementary question if you like. There is one type of substance where the IR photon would excite an electron into a higher state owing to the fact that the states more or less form a continuum. Can you say what it is? And why are a continuum? No Googling!”

    ME
    “If the atmosphere was non-emissive in IR it would be hotter”

    Troll
    – No. If the atmosphere was non-emissive, it would also be non-absorptive (transparent). The UWIR from the surface (lots of it) would go straight to space! Cooler!

    Your denier brain is determined not to get this! Rolling on the floor laughing
    No no no! It also means an increase in absorptivity. That’s the bit you screwed up. So it means that it intercepts the UWIR from the surface. Yes it DOES emit from the TOA, but because it’s much colder there, so the net amount lost to space is lower. Get it? GHE”

  129. CD Marshall says:

    Heller is on there too quite a bit, knocking trolls out.

  130. CD Marshall says:

    So the mantra is back to insulation is slowing IR and forcing temps higher

  131. CD Marshall says:

    Ha someone is using the Venus tripe over at Twitter.

  132. CD Marshall says:

    Thanks Philip M your help with me on Venus managed to tick off a lot of climate clowns on Twitter LOL. Oh well. Yeah that was while ago but I’ve been working on it off and on waiting for mighty Joe Postma to do a video on it someday or his daughter if enough time goes by 🤷‍♀️. Yes I did agitate them on purpose but I needed some amusement.

    I know it sounds insane but I really think Venus could be much hotter. I wonder if CO2 is helping to cool it off somehow? I mean the poor planet has no hope, not much spin, isothermal with little wind, a day longer than its year, thin outer crust, possible massive volcanic activity and a 92 bar atmosphere. Interesting theory that something massive may have hit it along time ago?

  133. J Cuttance says:

    CD the “IR slows down” emissions and raising temperatures doesn’t even make intuitive sense.

    Imagine a warm object that is cooling down with a cool object some distance away. There is (groan) two way radiative communication. The “slow down” theory suggests that to slow the warm object’s cooling, just bring the cool object closer!

    Now bring the cool object really close, a millimetre from the warm one. The cooling of the warm object must now be “slowed down” to the limits of the “new thermodynamic theory”.

    Now make the cool object touch the warm object. Clearly there would be a sudden cooling due to the higher heat transfer coefficient of conduction.

    There must be some way of exploiting the rapid change from the retarded heat transfer to the rapid conductive one.

    Carnot missed a trick with that one.

  134. CD Marshall says:

    Yeah its the same rehash Erik the “climate scientist” tried,

    “We aren’t saying CO2 increases temperature, we are saying that …the rate of energy loss is slower. Thus the new equilibrium state is higher.’ ”

    In other words, a change of emissions rates in the atmosphere according to climate science means the cooling of the surface is changed to retain more heat and increase temperature. Which is not how physics works, to increase the surface temperature you must first increase emissivity of the surface, in other words the rate of thermal energy exchange.

    So my short version reply was, “more energy in the system is not the greenhouse gas effect. The system is still convecting it is still cooling. Rate of cooling does not influence the original temperature. The emissivity of the ground is not reduced the equilibrium state is not higher.

    Now the clowns are trying to claim all that nonsense up there that made little sense. I wish Joe could have got there and ripped them a new one for prosperity purposes.

  135. Philip Mulholland says:

    CDM
    Your welcome. My analysis of Venus is based on Joe’s tutoring on heat and so I finally groked the issue of what I term the solar flame temperature.
    Still trying to get this paper published because I think that it’s a doozie.

  136. Philip Mulholland says:

    “Venus -Interesting theory that something massive may have hit it along time ago?”
    Given what happened to the dinosaurs 65 Mya that is on my list of definite possibles.

  137. Philip Mulholland says:

    “We aren’t saying CO2 increases temperature, we are saying that …the rate of energy loss is slower. Thus the new equilibrium state is higher.’ ” – which is an increase in temperature!

    The logic contortion there is breathtaking.
    We are not saying what we are saying. We are saying what we are saying.
    This takes “No, but” to a totally new realm.

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  139. CD Marshall says:

    “These aren’t the droids you are looking for…BUT they are the droids you are looking for.”

  140. CD Marshall says:

    Now I said the Sun has little to do with the temps on Venus It’s all pretty internal, pressure plus what ever the heat source was or still is. Unless that atmosphere gets reduced it will never cool. I also loved hitting the trolls with CO2 absolutely plays an important part in the Venusian temperature, it needs that molar mass!

  141. CD Marshall says:

    Joseph,
    this guy “Tom S Wayly” is really a jerk RGHE troll with enough physics ed to make him arrogant and not enough to make him smart.

    Joseph Postma Online School for Physics is sounding better and better ❤

  142. Philip Mulholland says:

    Their statement in effect reduces to this:
    + = –

  143. CD Marshall says:

    Can anyone really be a successful physicist with an IQ under 145? I’m just curious the mind set you need to be on such a higher level. They say IQs don’t matter but that’s not the evidence we have seen. Certain gifted people can work around IQs sure but when it’s the barebones science you brain needs to move fast and compartmentalize enormous amounts of data simultaneously, compute data independently and store mass data at the same time, that’s something an average IQ cannot do.

    You can be smart like a single core CPU running at 4.0 ghz but a scientist needs many cores to run efficiently the more the better, a Threadripper is preferential 🙂

  144. boomie789 says:

    I think the world avg is 89 IQ atm. That’s about Mexico’s avg. I think I remember hearing around 93-96 is when your country becomes a failed state. They USA they say is 98.

  145. CD Marshall says:

    89 has to be those who simply don’t do any education anymore, your brain is like a muscle it needs to work out, you can increase IQ this way (up to a point) but genetics is genetics. Anyone active in some kind of brain exercising should have at least a 100 if they are mentally healthy.

  146. CD Marshall says:

    JP I just used your explanation for a space blanket on Twitter so thank you!
    “This is precisely how a shiny “thermal space-blanket” works: first, it is a physical barrier to convective cooling for the body inside it. But second, shiny surfaces always have low emissivity and this means that the exterior of the blanket is a poor emitter of radiation. Therefore, the temperature of the surface and its interior must increase in temperature in order to emit the energy being generated by the body inside the blanket.” -JP

  147. oldbrew says:

    They’re reviving 19th century crude experiments now…

    JULY 23, 2021
    The physics of climate change was described in the 1800s by scientist Eunice Foote
    by Sylvia G. Dee, The Conversation

    Foote conducted a simple experiment. She put a thermometer in each of two glass cylinders, pumped carbon dioxide gas into one and air into the other and set the cylinders in the Sun. The cylinder containing carbon dioxide got much hotter than the one with air, and Foote realized that carbon dioxide would strongly absorb heat in the atmosphere.

    Foote’s discovery of the high heat absorption of carbon dioxide gas led her to conclude that “… if the air had mixed with it a higher proportion of carbon dioxide than at present, an increased temperature” would result.

    https://phys.org/news/2021-07-physics-climate-1800s-scientist-eunice.html

  148. Philip Mulholland says:

    They use crude 19th century politics too.

  149. CD Marshall says:

    Weird…Just looked into that!
    https://principia-scientific.org/the-glass-jar-greenhouse-gas-experiment-problem/

    One of the tricks is using CO2 that expends moisture into the jar. You have to use a dry CO2 release.

  150. CD Marshall says:

    My putting moisture into they cheat the test.

  151. CD Marshall says:

    Great rant by Rosco on that too 🙂

  152. tom0mason says:

    Philip Mulholland @ 2021/07/25 at 4:07 AM

    IMO, and just some observations …
    Yeah but, no but, yeah but no, but yeah but, yeah but no, but yeah but …
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
    ““We aren’t saying CO2 increases temperature, we are saying that …the rate of energy loss is slower. Thus the new equilibrium state is higher.’ ” – which is an increase in temperature! “ 😲

    Is that the royal ‘we’? 🙂
    Or is it just the ‘we’ of a population of fools propagating groupthink and the idiocrasies of consensus climate ‘seance’?
    “… the rate of energy loss is slower.”
    What is the ‘preferred’ rate of energy loss, and what are the major factors that define it … 😨 show ALL of your workings.
    And now from mere theory to …, where’s the observational evidence for this is? 😱
    NOTHING! Just some w-hacky modeled dross 😳 .

    Global temperature rise of about 1°C in 150-200 years, does not a climate crisis make.
    A fall of 1°C in the next 100 years or less would make life so much harder for all.

  153. CD Marshall says:

    I saved the entire conversation.
    Joe’s response to that was great…

    “Since you admit that “ghgs” do not increase the temperature of the radiative body, then there is nothing left to discuss. We are in agreement and you concede to CD and to my point: ghgs don’t cause warming. You just said it yourself: “I never said that GHGs increase the temperature of the radiative body.” Yes that is exactly the point. You just submitted to CD and to my own position – current climate change, in as much as temperature might be thought to be increasing, isn’t caused by GHGs since GHGs do not increase the temperature of the radiative body. Thank you for finally submitting to rational science and climate change rationality and skepticism.”

  154. CD Marshall says:

    That whole post was over 23,000 words!

  155. CD Marshall says:

    Mann-ipulation strikes again.

  156. CD Marshall says:

    Any scientists in the room?
    “Proxy values are not “observations” they’re estimates.”
    Is this basically true or not quite?

  157. They’re inferences.

  158. CD Marshall says:

    So proxy values are a conclusion reached on the basis of evidence and reasoning.

  159. CD Marshall says:

    Thank you kind sir.

  160. CD Marshall says:

    PSI

    “I am confident that you will discover, as I did, that the jar with the CO2 does NOT shoot way up in comparison to the one with air, as it is purported to do in those YouTube demonstrations. In fact, I found that it actually lagged behind by about 1/2 degree. I have seen other on line experimenters get the same results. But don’t take my word for it- do the experiment yourself!

    That’s what true science is about. Repeatable experiments, NOT computer models, based on assumptions. Anyone who is interested in delving into the physics in greater detail would do well to study the Laws of Thermodynamics to understand that the ‘greenhouse effect’ cannot produce runaway heat buildup.”

  161. Jopo says:

    The awesome powers of emissivity. Greenhouse gases doing what they do do best! Cooling down down black bodies.

    Watching the Australians taking advantage of emissivity and giving the Chinese a walloping in the Field Hockey.

  162. boomie789 says:

  163. CD Marshall says:

    Joe,
    “If an atmosphere couldn’t radiate, it would be HOT. This is a question of emissivity. If the atmosphere has no emissivity, then it could get hotter and hotter without ever losing energy. If you then add an emissive gas to such a system, now you provide a mechanism for it to cool.”

    I put this on Twitter as a thought experiment, based on a comment you made and was wondering if you had any more thoughts on it to add? As the popular beliefs are so polar opposite, as the common claims that the atmosphere would be freezing. Chris A said GHGS at higher atmosphere results in a net cooling but in the lower atmosphere a net warming, which is the most popular belief in the climate clown consensus. The closer to the tropopause the parcel of air moves the greater the probability of GHGs breaking LTE and expediting IR directly into space, thus the claimed, “net cooling” defense was made against the results of the SABER instrument solar storm data which is not remotely the same process but they had to keep that RGHE protected.

  164. CD Marshall says:

    That PSI experiment would make great Dad-Daughter time wouldn’t it?

  165. CD Marshall says:

    I do wish you could get back on Twitter? Maybe do a new account under a new Burner Email and go in as Joe Postma, Astrophysics or Joe physics educator?

  166. CD Marshall says:

    From that Tom guy,
    “Kirchoff’s rule was designed to address the very situation you described. In theory, you can have a gas that doesn’t emit. But Kirchoff explains why it doesn’t get “hotter and hotter”. i.e your statement is wrong. Need any more detail?”

    He said if the surface emits than the atmosphere would get no warmer than the surface.

  167. CD Marshall says:

    I replied,
    “Back to Kirchoff, the Sun is the deciding factor that breaks that rule. The solar density flux of solar photons are not equal going in as out from the surface.”

  168. CD Marshall says:

    KIrchoff’w Law is based on TE in the cavity and the body, simply not really applicable to the Earth is it? It can be used mathematically for a parcel of air in LTE, but still the full power of the Sun breaks that factor to the surface.

  169. CD Marshall says:

    Just more spin and spin and spin…

  170. CD Marshall says:

    “Fluxes don’t add they merge.” is that about correct in the most base of assertions?

  171. CD Marshall says:

    Because they would make a new flux based on TE of the two? So if one is hotter and the other colder, subtraction but if the same=nothing? More energy not more temperature. Going back to my notes LOL.

  172. boomie789 says:

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/nI5DH2YW9g70/

    Breastfeed your children, drink raw milk, eat free-range eggs, eat meat.

    These are super foods that will help keep your body and mind strong. Anyone who says otherwise wants you weak and dumb like them.

  173. CD Marshall says:

    boomie789
    These people look terrifyingly malnourished. I know a former Olympic weightlifter who is a Vegan commented on this before. Most of them are making it as a statement not a way of life and are not eating properly to compensate and killing themselves from being stupid.

    Clarence Thomas an absolute beast and Vegan:
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSyByWwlEi4BWzjCdJCQEDA

    HIs diet:
    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=clarence0+diet

  174. CD Marshall says:

    LOL Clarence Kennedy not Thomas we aren’t talking about the US Supreme Court 😛

  175. boomie789 says:

    Well he definitely doesn’t look weak

  176. CD Marshall says:

    He actually quit the Olympics because of all the doping and yes they do get away with it.

  177. boomie789 says:

    They want the gaming PCs.

    I have a gaming PC I built myself. Pretty common trends now a days. A lot of young boys get into it. I’m not sure if they are actually banning high end GPUs, CPUs, and PSUs. Seems like it.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-california-energy-computers/california-adopts-first-u-s-energy-saving-rules-for-computers-idUSKBN1431RV

    I’m hearing crypto probably has something to do with this, if not everything.

  178. CD Marshall says:

    JayzTwoCents should explain it soon he is a tech guy that lives in California.

  179. CD Marshall says:

    I know governments are getting greedy to get in on some free cash that Crypto has been making and want to tax the crap out of crypto miners so much some of the smaller miners are backing out of it completely. Some of them can literally make millions in day.

  180. CD Marshall says:

    But also mass Crypto Mining takes massive load on the power grid wind and solar can’t handle that. I saw a video of a guy on a boat to run his monitor, sound system and Apple tech took 4 solar panels and of course the solar generator had to store more energy that the solar panels total output.

    Which is great if you use one thing at a time conservatively and never venture to far out to sea. Personally I’d always have a back up generator.

  181. boomie789 says:

    I’m not that interested in crypto personally. Maybe invest a little in one, Ethereum probably.


    lol. I always admit the decentralized control aspect is really good.

    I’m not so much worried about crypto as I am not having good computer parts. Especially because of “Greenhouse gas” emissions. Lame.

  182. CD Marshall says:

    A flux is a measure of energy in time of an area, not the E itself.
    ” it is energy per second per square meter”.

    Still need more crystal clear infallible comprehension of flux.

  183. CD Marshall says:

    @boomie789
    I bought my GPU used (like new) for a 100 bucks (AMD Radeon R9 390x) right before the great transistor depression. It was a one time opportunity to upgrade all of my stuff, still had a 775 socket processor and 8 gigs of DDR2 (😨) could barely run anything.

    Now I have:
    AMD MSI X570 MOBO
    32g 3200 RAM
    AMD Ryzen 3400g 3.6 (Ghz native)
    ASUS 28″ 4K Monitor
    ASUS 27″ 2K Monitor
    AMD MSI Radeon R9 390x (8g VR)
    XFX 850w PSU
    1TB M.2 for games
    HDDs over 2.5 TB total

    Runs well but if I could I’d get an 8 core CPU, double my RAM and get at least a 1K PSU.

    I would love to get my hands on an RX 6800 XT (16GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0).

    The really funny thing is I can’t stream in 4K finally have all the tech but my internet is too slow, just stutters. One of our friends is a Tech Guru going to see if he can squeeze some more juice out of my internet (he builds 3-D printers for fun). The guy works cyber security for a global company and if he wanted to could hack my computer anytime he felt like it, even has a laptop designed for hacking with codes he wrote himself. I love and hate him.

  184. NVIDIA 1080Ti
    Asus ROG Zenith Extreme Alpha II
    Samsung 980 Pro gen4 500GB X4 RAID0
    8TB Seagate data drive
    Threadripper 3960X 24 core 48 thread 4.5GHz turbo
    Kingston hyperx fury 32GB 3600 X2
    ASUZ 850W Strix PS
    28″ Samsung 4k gaming landscape
    28″ Asus 1080p portrait
    Fibre net unlimited speed/data

  185. CD Marshall says:

    “The heat flow equation is not limited to thermodynamic equilibrium… Heat flow occurs when there is NOT thermodynamic equilibrium.” Which no physicist should ever be confusing this, you made that really clear, heat flow has limitations according to the LoTs and if energy is moving through a system in TE it is in a steady state of energy flow, not heat flow?

    This is interesting, so this puts Kirchoff’s Law in a whole new meaning, since it only applies to thermal equilibrium it does not apply to HEAT flow? So is it more directed towards a steady state?

    Kirchoff’s Law seems to be unraveling as a climate clown defense for GW.

  186. CD Marshall says:

    @Joseph E Postma:
    Your Rig: I hate you 😏
    Can 850W handle a threadripper AND a 1080Ti that’s a lot of “juice” as the younglings say these days.

    If you ever upgrade get an ASUS Thor ROG 1200W

    Do you game much in 2-4K HD?

  187. CD Marshall says:

    My CPU amp usage is 20-60 can’t imagine a Threadrippper? I love AMD got to say, use to be a huge Intel fan but AMD all the way now.

  188. Actually I’m VERY unimpressed with the threadripper. They just don’t seem to have the architecture that Intel has or something…it’s only marginally better than my previous Intel quad core 8 thread at 4.8GHz…and in many cases its literally actually 100x slower on multithreaded tasks! Same code I’ve written myself for image data analysis heavily using multithreading…have had to re-write it just to make the threadripper barely perform equal to what I had with the 8 thread Intel. It’s quite fucked…realized that AMD’s massive core chips are just a fn GIMMICK. Total shit…garbage…the internal architecture or whatever just doesn’t manage multi thread operations anywhere as efficiently as Intel does. From what I can tell, it’s constantly trying to spin threads off to other cores to distribute thermal load, but when you’re using all 48 threads then all it does it spend most of its time trying to trade threads between cores to reduce thermal load…but all cores are being used anyway so that’s retarded. Yah, I’m glad work paid for it! Total fn piece of shit, relatively speaking for what it SHOULD do. Totally amateur gimmicky cpu architecture as far as I can tell. Historically AMD gets a year in the limelight every 10 years or so…then everyone IN PRACTICE realizes they’re still shit and Intel takes back over anyway. AMD seems to be able to tweak their cpus for the benchmark software tests they know everyone uses…but for code out in the wild working on actual data…nope…Total shit.

    If I hadve just put my Intel 8 thread cpu onto a mobo with those 4 4th Gen ssd’s in raid0, and the faster and larger ram, I’d be beating the absolute shit out of the threadripper. As it is, the 4 SSD’s in raid0 and fast ram make up for the shit performance of the threadripper, so that this system performs basically identically to my 5 year old Intel 8 thread system.

  189. Example: I have code to perform searches for values on very large images, hence it is natural to miltithread that task. On Intel, multithreading the search for values within an image really does reduce time to completion by the number of threads used. So for a given image, the search took like 0.01s on the 8 thread Intel.

    When I ran the exact same code on the exact same image searching for the exact same values…the fn threadripper took TEN seconds!!!!!! WTF!!??

    So that’s literally 1000 times slower when I have 48 amd threads compared to 8 Intel!

    So I had to re-write all the code to make the amd chip not kill itself when doing this search, for example.

  190. Whatever the amd architecture is doing, it seems unable to manage multithreaded instructions anywhere near as intelligently as Intel does.

    For example, you need to use thread-critical directives in the multithreaded code in the example above, which locks other threads while it executes, but which is fine because this condition hardly ever triggers and so hardly ever locks other threads…works as intended on Intel. On amd, it seems to not understand this or process such code intelligently or as you would expect…it locks all threads anyway or something even if it doesn’t need to…so you get all threads constantly locking each other when they shouldn’t hence resulting in much much worse than linear performance.

  191. CD Marshall says:

    I’ve seen tests where either Intel or AMD does better on some things and worse on others, BUT AMD will throttle down if thermals spike, they do much better on lower latency RAM, believe it or not your fast RAM might be slowing it down. AMD is really RAM dependent BUT then again it might be incompatible with your software which would flat out suck.

    I like my AMD took a little bit of work to fine tune it, AMD is not “out of the box” friendly but after I got it working I’m quite pleased with it. AMD’s are also energy dependent, they need a lot and take a lot. I would go with 1200 watts and water cooled (unless of course it already is?). Intel is more efficient for your kind of work loads though and that might be the only problem. Well that and if it is even utilizing the core as and threads.

    However it could be a bad CPU or AMD sucks for your work loads.

    This one costs 8k from a fellow Canadian site…

  192. CD Marshall says:

    K so if everything ran perfectly and was coded for Intel why would your tech guys choose AMD? Especially when time dependent mass loads (and/or rendering) needs the higher RAM capacity?
    This would have done the job:
    https://www.newegg.com/core-i9-x-series-intel-core-i9-9940x/p/N82E16819117964

    And would have been far cheaper.

  193. immortal600 says:

    I am trying to find that quote from Schroeder about students difficulty with Thermodynamics. It wasn’t in his Introduction of Thermal Physics.

    A little help please.

  194. In my 2000 edition it’s on page 17.

  195. Textbook name is just “Thermal Physics”.

  196. CD: Because you expect it to perform as advertised and that code won’t execute differently.

  197. immortal600 says:

    Joe, thanks!!

  198. immortal600 says:

    Joe, found it. Section 1.4 Heat and Work.

  199. boomie789 says:

    WOW. I’ve never heard anything like that about AMD. MY PC is a bit long in the tooth now.

    MSI 1070ti
    i5 7600k @5ghz
    ASRock Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming K6 LGA 1151 Intel Z270
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200

    I also have an 850W
    Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 850W PLATINUM

    Then I have a couple SSDs and HDDs in there Close to 3TB. I still have my M.2 open I never got one.

    And I have a GIANT air cooler that looks hot rodish. Even though I just have a quad core 😂.

    I thought for sure my next CPU would be AMD, now Postma has me questioning.

  200. boomie789 says:

    It’s dirty and I ran out of places to put hardrives.

  201. For some reason frequencies have dropped. Noone is producing new 5GHz chips it seems. I’d stick with your system for now. Maybe upgrade to the m.2 slot for sure. Most people don’t require massive parallelism anyway…games don’t need it and base clock is most important.

    But whatever. Won’t be worse for gaming if you upgrade. Always fun to do a system build.

  202. boomie789 says:

    OOOOO very fancy and clean. Water cooled.

  203. J Cuttance says:

    Can I start an argument? I just read this at WUWT… ‘ Nick, you and thermo and heat transfer textbooks have obviously not been in communication since around the 1980’s when it became more topical in engineering courses to explain how microwave ovens heated food and CO2 lasers can cut steel despite their cold temperature and calculably cold radiative temperature as well….’

  204. Yes…lol…the ghe is not a microwave oven doing work with electrical power from outside, nor is it a laser with power supplied from outside.

  205. J Cuttance says:

    JP I think his angle is that microwaves are from the cool end of the spectrum

  206. They’re not transferring heat…they’re doing work with an external power supply.

  207. CD Marshall says:

    I looked into it a little more, another guy had the same complaint but his MOBO and CPU turned out to be faulty. He got another one and it ran like a beast. I’d run some tests on it or you know have the tech guys run the tests, I’m sure you already told them it’s not working (politely) and asked them to please check it out as something is not working correctly and you can’t afford delays in your work.

  208. CD Marshall says:

    JP your rig belongs in a clean room it’s that pristine, excellent cable management.

    Boomie yours looks like mine which was clean and perfect when I built it, but thermos forced me to
    make exceptions for better performance, I don’t like messing with liquid cooling. My AMD CPUi works great and runs cool, it’s that MSI R9 390x that heats up like a furnace, even with extreme air flow it tops out at 70C under full load on most games.

  209. CD Marshall says:

    J Cuttance,
    Complete misdirection or just physics impaired or both (I’m leaning on both).
    The short answer is a CO2 Laser is not the atmosphere; it requires so many other factors to function. Lasers create a coherent light beam created from a stimulated emission process solar and surface radiation emits incoherent light and spreads out in all directions.

    Short explanation.
    https://www.msnucleus.org/membership/html/k-6/as/technology/5/ast5_1a.html

  210. CD Marshall says:

    “CO2 lasers have a radiation wavelength of 10.4 microns, about the same as an ice cube. Their cold photons aren’t absorbed into the molecular structure to increase the kinetic energy and raise the temperature, but the gigantic power (20M watts/sq. m) breaks chemical bonds (electron shells) and can melt metal that way. Sorry, Earth’s atmosphere is fresh out of CO2 lasers. Ditto microwave ovens, which make polar water molecules spin around and heat neighboring molecules with friction. The CO2 hoaxers have hijacked climate science by trying to make everything about warming, when the Earth is actually a frigid planet surrounded by a frigid blanket of atmosphere that is lucky to have a Sun to keep it from freezing. CO2’s natural 15 micron -80C Planck radiation can’t melt an ice cube, and their hoax is exposed for all to see. http://www.historyscoper.com/thebiglieaboutco2.html”

  211. J Cuttance says:

    JP thanks, that was click moment for me, though you probably heard a clunk from my steam-driven brain. I was missing the big W part of the equation. And there’s no way a warm surface can receive ‘work’ done from it’s own emissions.

  212. CD Marshall says:

    Link doesn’t work anymore? Did he get Zonked!??? This works.
    http://www.historyscoper.com/newrealclimatesciencecourse.html

  213. boomie789 says:

    You were right.

  214. CD Marshall says:

    Thanks Boomie will be watching it love that guy!

  215. CD Marshall says:

    Joe,
    What is the difference between referring to the stored energy in oceans as heat sinks or a thermal battery? Aren’t they pretty much the same method?

  216. Same thing i guess.

  217. CD Marshall says:

    Honestly who are these freaks dictating what your PC is now allowed to use? I’m seeing a permit in the future, just another way for these liberal states to create infinite money sinks. Obviously the New Green Energy plan is not working.

  218. CD Marshall says:

    California will be the first state to force E-cars as state law, you watch and then tax the electric power grid needed to power those stupid tin cans to oblivion.

  219. CD Marshall says:

    Give me a car the same size as a normal car that will run a year on battery and still do a 100mph and I’m game.

  220. CD Marshall says:

    Joseph you make a battery better than Tesla and you’ll be getting a ticket to the Moon.

  221. boomie789 says:

    I remember watching something about the energy stored in batteries and the weight compared to fossil fuels. A tanker truck full of diesel that runs on diesel. Compared to a truck running on batteries carrying batteries. The batteries can’t even come close to how much energy is stored in the diesel.

    Then, once we get these miracle batteries, they will need cobalt and lithium and take a whole bunch of energy to make themselves. That will be mined by 3rd world children by the way. Build up the economy of scale so they are affordable.

    Fossil fuels are really hard to beat. We know the “Greenhouse gas” emissions stuff is bull.

  222. CD Marshall says:

    I want fusion powered flying cars. Aim high expect low.

    My city has some electric scooter thing going on, have you seen these? They pick them up downtown somewhere and just use them all over the city (or if they die) when done they jus leave them anywhere. A team comes by picks them up and brings them back tot he main hub.

  223. CD Marshall says:

    This is how weather guys confuse themselves. Unless I am mistaken the “NET” radiation calculation is wrong.

    ” Relate that temp difference, with a changing temp, and relate that to a flux.
    Net Rad in dual 0.3u-30.0u up/down at abt 5′
    And matches temp rate.”

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7Wa9NSXoAEQBX7?format=png&name=medium

  224. boomie789 says:

    Yea largely a scam imo. Backdoor deals I’m sure. I think I have a picture of a bunch of scooters like that trashed in a river.

    “Curious, unless I missed it, you did not touch on the carrying capacity of the Tesla Semi. Elon did the same thing at the unveiling a couple (several) years back. If the energy density in 1kg of fuel equates to 19kg of Tesla’s newest battery cell structure (and it does) then you are going to need like 15-18 tons of battery just to get 500 miles with a load of pillows or uncompressed cotton. Not even sure you can put all that weight in batteries just on the tractor because of axle weight restrictions. So not only will a Tesla semi be limited to less than a third of a diesel’s cargo load capacity, I think you’d also need a custom trailer to hold the rest of the batteries to keep all the axle weights legal. There is no way Tesla doesn’t already know this. My guess is this thing will end up being a 24 foot cube van for inner-city deliveries only.”

    “Here in the US. A diesel truck can drive 1,000 miles before you have to fuel it. Also in 11 hrs you can drive up 700 miles or more depending on traffic etc. If you put a heavy load on electric trucks the 300 to 500 mile range will be decreased. The 70 to 90 minutes charging time for electric trucks takes time from driving. You can fuel a diesel truck with 300 gallons in 15 minutes”

    I was looking for that video. I think it was back from before Tesla was around.

  225. CD Marshall says:

    So an electric truck carrying a giant ass battery as its payload (charging the truck) could equal a diesel with a payload?
    😄😄😄
    The future indeed!
    😂😂😂

    What are these people going to do when the glaciation arrives? Are the Elites planning on going to Mars and let the planet’s inhabitants die off or something then come back and make it Eden Prime?
    🤷‍♂️🤷‍♀️
    The world is an upside down clown world.
    🤡🙃
    The world looks so much better when you’re upside down.
    🤡🙃

  226. CD Marshall says:

    Back to that graph, they think the ‘net radiation’ is the cause for that warming which at first glance would seem that way. The air temperature decreased with relative humidity, the IR simply changes do to the absorption of the increased humidity.

  227. CD Marshall says:

    This one from NOAA is more tricky in the mix…
    “From the GML radiation plot below…
    At night, net rad is -ve. Dwir can’t warm the surface because uwir > dwir. At noon, net rad is nearly 600 W/m^2. Without dwir, net would only be about 200 W/m^2, instead dwir balances ~80% of uwir.”

  228. CD Marshall says:

    So they are just measuring energy moving through the system and assuming that “adds” to temperature (or pretending).

  229. CD Marshall says:

    Well trashing them in the river IS eco friendly.

  230. CD Marshall says:

  231. CD Marshall says:

    Joe on your latest video did you see this?
    “I’m the COO of an OFS company. Would you be interested being a guest on an Oilfield Podcast? I have my PE in Thermo, so I have known all of this basic stuff for a while and would like the oil industry to start playing offense instead of defense.”

  232. CD Marshall says:

    So this guy is talking pretty big now that he knows you can’t talk to him and claims he is a physicist.
    I offered for him to contact you and chat on zoom but he says no, Twitter is fine knowing you can’t get on it. I’m tempted to give you my Twitter account info and let you go on mine! That would be actually funny and I could care less if I got removed it’s going to happen soon enough anyway I’m sure, Ned got removed as well?

  233. boomie789 says:

    Check this out on @Newegg: SAMSUNG 980 M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 3.0 x4, NVMe 1.4 V-NAND MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V8V1T0B/AM https://www.newegg.com/samsung-1tb-980/p/N82E16820147804?Item=N82E16820147804&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-147-804-_-07282021

    Bought this one.

  234. CD Marshall says:

    One of my old posts from last year (December) I guess this Kirchhoff’s Law has been a talking point for trolls for a while now?

    “So I was reading about radiative heat transfer, and they mentioned an ‘effective sky temperature’.

    “Which ranges from 230 Kelvin for a cold clear sky and up to 285 Kelvin for a warm cloudy sky, this effective sky temperature can be considered as a blackbody for the atmosphere at very low temps”. This accounts for the direct sunlight absorbed and scattered in the atmosphere. Which is 11.85C to below 43.15C. The thing is the only range in the atmosphere where that actually exists is below the middle of the troposphere and thus can be contributed to surface to atmosphere warming. Nowhere above the tropopause to under the thermosphere do we have atmopsheric temps above 0C.

    I was also curious that they mentioned Kirchoff’s law, which made me think if climate science is using that to justify radiative forcing from the COE which obviously is not anywhere near the same thing, to justify an atmospheric thermal equilibrium.

    However it clearly states Kirchoff’s law is not applicable to a wide range of temperature differences, of 100 Kelvin or more.

    “The total hemispherical emissivity of a surface temperature T is equal to its total hemi-spherical absorptivity.”

  235. CD Marshall says:

    Joseph,
    I waited ’till I could get enough supporters with a good number of followers and posted your videos. Now if they all retweet those videos you’ll be able to hit thousands of viewers. So at that point Twitter “might” (I’d say very likely) will either delete my account or flag all of your videos as “sensitive material”. Time will tell.

  236. CD Marshall says:

    I don’t have many followers but my followers have thousands.

  237. Great stuff CD 🙂

  238. CD Marshall says:

    When a cartoonist is your source for science you get this…
    https://skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm

  239. CD Marshall says:

    🤡🤡🤡 This comment alone is worth a post.

    “Response: “its particular thermal characteristics show that the CO2 is not capable of producing any warming”

    On the contrary, the enhanced greenhouse effect from CO2 has been confirmed by multiple lines of empirical evidence (eg – satellite measurements of infrared spectra, surface measurements finding more downward infrared radiation warming the planet’s surface).

    “If I was to blame any atmospheric gas of a GH effect, I would blame the Water Vapor, not the the coolant CO2.”

    You would be right in that water vapour is the most dominant greenhouse gas. It’s also the dominant positive feedback in our climate system and amplifies any warming caused by changes in atmospheric CO2. This positive feedback is why climate is so sensitive to CO2 warming.”

  240. CD Marshall says:

    Already throttled on Twitter, was getting tons of notifications, now nothing.

  241. CD Marshall says:

    Less throttling now time will tell.
    So after a little talk on twitter I have a question. How does an astrophysicist determine temperatures on other planets with an atmosphere? You would have to calculate albedo, solar irradiance, gravity, atmopsheric pressure and lapse rate to figure surface and temperatures according to altitude?

  242. boomie789 says:

    You point your telescope at whatever planet you want to get the surface temperature on. Then go to your kitchen and grab one of those laser thermometers.

    orient it pointing through the telescope and viola.

    🤣

  243. CD Marshall says:

    LOL then you divide that to calculate backradiaion. Makes perfect sense now.

  244. CD Marshall says:

    @Boomie
    You asked a while ago about how long it would take for the oceans to freeze over if the Sun stopped shining? {or something like that?} Joseph actually answered that a while ago in the comment section of a post.

    “It would take about 130 years for the ocean to turn from liquid into ice at 0C, then a few times that long to get near 0K, or thereabouts.”

  245. boomie789 says:

    Yea much longer than I intuitively thought.

  246. boomie789 says:

    there would have to be geothermal vent pockets with lakes under the ice. Maybe a couple of crabs and fish could survive there for a couple thousand years. Until the vents stop.

  247. CD Marshall says:

    Boomie,
    I miss your gifs and memes.

  248. boomie789 says:



    You ever listen to how real Chinese people talk? You would be surprised how common this is. Of course he would be arrested if he spoke against the government. But, imagine if you said that on social media in the west? Imagine if some public figure or CEO said that? They would be socially destroyed and likely fiscally DESTROYED. In China, not a big deal. Nobody cares.

    I’ve never validated these but I’ve seen a lot of them. I bet they are real.

  249. boomie789 says:


  250. CD Marshall says:

    I saw a video where public officials did a conference then walked away…cameras off masks off…

  251. boomie789 says:

    O I heard the mask are gone in Alberta. I really don’t like the mask. They seem to be mostly gone down here.

  252. CD Marshall says:

    𝔻𝕒𝕧𝕚𝕕 𝕀 𝔹𝕚𝕣𝕔𝕙
    @dbirch214
    ·
    13m
    Yes there have been over 19 all time low T records broken, haven’t you seen it on the News?
    Oh sorry silly me..

  253. CD Marshall says:

    Joe,
    Interesting paper from AMS 1978 strongly encouraging direct solar radiation observation as a better means to calculate albedo.

    https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/mwre/107/6/1520-0493_1979_107_0775_taowaa_2_0_co_2.xml

    “This article contains new tables, in which the albedos are averaged over all radiation received at all elevation angles of the sun (also tabulated). The tables are by month and year, for latitudes 0°C (10°) 90° and latitude belts 0–10° (10°) 80–90°, 0–30° (30°) 60–90° and 30–90° One set is based on the Fresnel equation, another on the data of Grishchenko. In the latter set, albedos are 2–4 percentage points higher at low latitudes, and up to 20 points lower near the pole, than those now in use.”

  254. justgivemeall says:

    40% of uk hospitalization now fully vacced in Israel 60%. Still we should run out and get the vaccine,you know follow the science. Maybe they should check the science,it says quite clearly that the vaccines aren’t working.

  255. justgivemeall says:

    Is it me or is everyone having trouble getting into psi
    Cheers Barry

  256. boomie789 says:

    working well for me atm.
    https://principia-scientific.org/

  257. justgivemeall says:

    Thanks Boomie they are back on line, maintenance I guess.
    Cheers Barry

  258. boomie789 says:

    The word Adreno-chrome is still banned. Weird ey?

  259. CD Marshall says:

    Is anything real anymore?
    TWITTER IS SHADOW BANNING ANY NEGATIVE MENTION OF #ElonMusk’s #Tesla #battery Fires.

    A Power plant (the largest in the Southern Hemisphere) Is On Fire h/t
    @jasemurphy

    $TSLA $TSLAQ

    St. #Elon Does Not Want Retweets.

    I Have Been Warning About Tesla Battery Fires Since 2018.

  260. CD Marshall says:
  261. boomie789 says:

    There’s this

  262. boomie789 says:

    What a terrible idea.

  263. CD Marshall says:

    Yeah I hear many E Car drivers are going back to gas cars so it will be the law soon enough (if they can) to ban gas cars, California will be first, I’m sure.

  264. CD Marshall says:

    Oh I ran into an old friend on Twitter, Eli Rabbit.

  265. CD Marshall says:

    My bad, Eli Rabbet I was just a hare off on the name…

  266. CD Marshall says:

    Did Joe go on vacation or move to India? 🙄

  267. CD Marshall says:

    Enjoy

  268. CD Marshall says:

    Can you guys put links here to all the active “debates” you guys are posting that hasn’t been removed (unless they all have been removed). I have some “scientists” on Twitter I’m sending your way…

  269. CD Marshall says:

    I guess Chris A and Kev-In-ZA are best buds now? Or is Chris Eli Rabbet? who knows.

  270. boomie789 says:

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/euMT6jUwXhym/

    “Patriot Patrick King represented himself in court after being fined $1200 dollars for protesting against the Covid-Hoax, he slew the beast and emerged VICTORIOUS. He issued a subpoena to the Provincial Health Minister for proof that the so-called Covid-19 Virus exists, and they were forced to admit that they had no evidence whatsoever. The virus has never been isolated, and thus the government had no legal grounds to impose any of the punishing restrictions they have inflicted on society. Since this shocking confession came to light, the Province has since rescinded all Covid-Restrictions and now officially treats Covid-19 as nothing more than a mild flu! WE WON

    King has shown the template to be followed WORLDWIDE. This is what can happen when you are not re-presented by a BAR (British Accredited Registry) Lawyer who’s first obligation is to the Corrupted Courts and not their client.”

    Here apparently the Governor, democrat, reinstated the mask mandate. I did see an uptick in mask today but no signs yet. I’m not going to wear it. Hasn’t been a problem so far.

  271. CD Marshall says:

    boomie789
    It will take billions of years for the Earth’s core to cool.

  272. CD Marshall says:

    Radiative forcing is from the Sun heating the surface. The troposphere/surface is not in thermal equilibrium. The lapse rates are solely dependent on the stratification of the atmosphere according to gravity with water vapor the prime factor of a variable lapse rate.

    That doesn’t mean the lapse rates are “set in stone” it just means it resets to that common denominator. Certain local temporary events can alter that such as storms, pressure changes and things I can’t think of off hand.

    More detailed explanation can be found here…
    R.W. Wood Had it Right: Sun Heats Earth! | Climate of Sophistry

    Joseph really needs Philip or PM overseeing his blog when he’s on vacations 🙂

  273. Philip Mulholland says:

    CDM
    You’re doing fine, don’t need me for this one.
    Lapse rates are my co-author’s specialty
    See: New Climate Model.- Stephen Wilde
    https://www.newclimatemodel.com/

  274. MP says:

    Why You Can’t Catch A Virus – Great Explanation

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/4zSlogUv7V5u/

  275. CD Marshall says:

    Thanks Philip, that will be worth a look into, but my original comment was for Boomie.

  276. CD Marshall says:

    Peter you are correct GHGs do help break LTE but that is a separate process from the lapse rate.

    the inversion you are referring to is the radiational inversion, simply the air in the lower PBL will cool faster than the air above it. The breaking of LTE by GHGs isn’t the lapse rate, that is a separate process.

    LTE= local thermodynamic equilibrium.

    PBL=Planetary Boundary Layer, is the lowest layer of the troposphere.

  277. Peter Norman says:

    I was reading a RMets paper on desert lapse rates:https://rmets.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/asl.1042
    The night-time atmospheric inversion (with low water vapour present) is obvious from their measurements and graphs. So, I am thinking: If Earth’s atmosphere was 100% nitrogen (no H2O no O2, substitute N2) I suspect the lapse rates in an N2 world would be similar to these desert observations. Now suppose we gradually substitute CO2 molecules for our N2 molecules. The higher the concentration of CO2 molecules, the steeper the lapse rate. So at the same altitude as in our N2 world the mixed N2/CO2 world would have a LOWER temperature. Seems to me more evidence that increases in the trace gas CO2 cools planet Earth. Wipe from your mind for this thought process water, O2, argon and other trace gasses. They do their own things!

  278. CD Marshall says:

    I’m been hacking it out out on Twitter. These guys are suppose to be climate experts? Complete morons.

    Constantly:
    Obfuscating heat and energy.
    Using equations meant for a steady state that they apply to a system not in TE.
    Denying the Sun heats the Earth.
    Claiming backs scattering is heating the Earth.

    Then if you manage to shut them up the same tripe reply. “All of science agrees with us.”

  279. It’s because they’re not human.

  280. CD Marshall says:

    I’ve seen better AI 🙂

  281. CD Marshall says:

    This is what is being taught in academia, from an undergrad in climate science:

    Radiative forcing is determined by the energy balance at the TOA.

    E-in > E-out = +RF

    E-in < E-out = -RF

  282. CD Marshall says:

    Have you guys seen anything on this new approach of going back to the oceans now they are claiming DWIR from “CO2” is warming the oceans. Naturally, low level IR can’t pierce the oceans it is a near topical phenomenon only. However they are now saying if it is “concentrated” it goes deeper.

  283. CD Marshall says:

    Or something crazy like that.

  284. peterandnen says:

    @CDM
    I am 75 year old and my engineering degree and post grad stuff are a distant memory. I obviously failed to communicate in one paragraph what seemed to me a useful concept. I agree, it is all about the boundary layer heating the air above during sunlight hours. What happens after that with radiation to space, oceans, water vapour, o2, dust, etc., gets really complicated. My argument is one can rebut the whole CO2 warming premise without getting bogged down in irrelevant processes. Look again at the 4 graphs in the paper I referenced. This desert is 1km above sea level and at the top of each graph the near adiabatic lapse rate is sitting there (day and night). I think it was a Jo Postma said in a blog somewhere –g/Cp “That seems very important to me”. Take a look at the lapse rate on Mars. Goddard Space Flight Centre has published loads. 95% of the atmosphere is CO2: more than 10 times as many CO2 molecules between Mars surface and the sun. On Mars the lapse rate at the surface boundary does similar things to the desert conditions described. A few km up it is closer to CO2 adiabatic (when the dust settles). Mars lapse rate continues to the mesosphere (as Earth’s lapse rate would without water and O2). Is there anything special about CO2 radiating to space? You tell me. I say if it is a better radiator than N2, it will cool the planet atmosphere more efficiently. Do you now see the point I was trying to make?

  285. peterandnen says:

    @ CDM
    Just noticed WordPress has picked up my other id. Peter Norman = peterandnen

  286. CD Marshall says:

    Yes certainly IR is an effective cooler, even some physicists admit that (on the climate crowd side) and then they add “but” and kills it.

  287. boomie789 says:

    They’re humans, but they have been programed.

    Women and children, and men with minds like women and children, follow the institutions. All of our western institutions are dominated by the left. Marxist useful idiots controlled by international banking and mega corp interest.

    I think it takes a masculine warrior/hunter mindset to face the truth and really look at it. I think those people are driven out of academia. They are even being bred out of society all together. Suppressed with drugs and pseudoscientific social theory.

    TLDR: They are feminine minded programable NPC people and not masculine minded independent thinking warriors

  288. tom0mason says:

    There’s an interesting article at https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2021/08/08/new-evidence-that-solar-forcing-is-greater-than-co2-forcing/ The headline is “New evidence that solar forcing is greater than CO2 forcing.”

  289. CD Marshall says:

    Yeah I just saw that from a tweet by @KeillerDon (Retired scientist) .

  290. CD Marshall says:

    “Kirchhoff’s law only applies if you’re in LTE. Outside of LTE, it
    won’t . If you’re in LTE but not true TE (like the daytime atmosphere), your incoming
    radiation won’t necessarily match the Planck curve for the temperature you’re at. This
    means that – even though Kirchoff’s law works – you can heat or cool radiatively due to
    the different spectral region that you’re absorbing in compared to the Planck curve at
    your ambient temperature. So don’t be fooled into thinking that LTE means you aren’t
    heating or cooling – it only means that the distributions of your molecules’ thermal states
    (electronic, vibrational, rotational, kinetic) are well characterized by the appropriate
    Boltzmann distribution for a single temperature, and thus have the expected absorptivity
    and emissivity for that temperature.”

    That sounds like KL is a very loose interpretation.

  291. SamMich says:

    CD Marshall, that it a rigorous definition for Kirchhoff’s law of thermal radiation. All that quote does is clarify that emissivity equals absorptivity, not absorption. That is, it equals the percentage of incoming radiation absorbed, not the total amount of incoming radiation absorbed.

  292. CD Marshall says:

    Thanks Sam, that was a good point. Other than treating a parcel of air or a localized system in LTE I’m not sure how they could apply KL to anything in the atmosphere or the surface for it has to be in TE to correctly calculate and it is not a proxy estimate.

    This is from AMS
    LTE
    A condition under which matter emits radiation based on its intrinsic properties and its temperature, uninfluenced by the magnitude of any incident radiation.

    LTE occurs when the radiant energy absorbed by a molecule is distributed across other molecules by collisions before it is reradiated by emission. LTE is needed for Planck’s law and Kirchhoff’s law to apply, and is typically satisfied at atmospheric pressures higher than about 0.05 mb. Laser radiation is an example of non-LTE emission.

  293. CD Marshall says:

    “Energy always flows from a warmer object toward a colder object. An ice cube at 32 degrees F absorbs energy from air that has a temperature warmer than freezing. Energy flows from the room toward the ice cube. Throw enough ice cubes in your kitchen and you may notice the temperature of the air cooling slightly. Energy is taken from your warmer room and moved into the ice cubes to melt them; A subtraction of energy causes cooling. The same holds when comparing freezing to condensation. The condensation process will warm the surrounding air 7.5 times as much as when the freezing process occurs. When a thunderstorm develops, the release of latent heat by condensation is 7.5 times as much as the release of latent heat by freezing.” Meteorologist Jeff Haby

  294. CD Marshall says:

    “Dr Michael Mann on the IPCC report: We have ZERO years left to avoid climate change, it’s here”
    What a total surprise.

    http://redgreenandblue.org/2021/08/09/dr-michael-mann-ipcc-report-zero-years-left-avoid-climate-change/

  295. boomie789 says:

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/735931/

    Former Pfizer VP warns childbearing-age women: ‘Do not accept these vaccines’

    “While Yeadon’s petition was ignored, he states that “a study has just come out a few weeks ago, and it says exactly what I was worried about.

    “Fifteen women were given the Pfizer vaccine. They drew blood samples every few days. When they measured antibodies against spike protein, which took several weeks to appear, they also measured antibodies against the placenta and they found that within the first one to four days an increase of two and a half to three times. That’s a 300% increase in the antibodies against their own placenta in the first four days,” he explained.

    “So, I’m sorry to say this, but that is a vaccine-induced autoimmune attack on their own placenta. And I think you can only expect that that is happening in every woman of childbearing potential. It’s generating antibodies against this critical protein required for fertilization and successful pregnancy,” he said.

    “Now, what the effect will be, we can’t be certain. Again, it can’t be benign. I don’t know whether it is enough to cause first trimester losses, but I would think it would, because I’ve looked at the literature. Women who are unfortunate enough to have what are called autoimmune diseases seem to have a higher rate of first trimester losses and what this vaccine has done is induced an auto-immune response,” Yeadon explained.

    “So, I’m here to warn you that if you are of childbearing potential, or younger, not at menopause, I would strongly recommend you do not accept these vaccines,” he concluded.”

  296. CD Marshall says:

    Well it has became mandatory for the all US troops and I heard quite a few airline pilots walked out from where not sure, just saw it briefly.

    https://networkinvegas.com/thousands-of-cancelled-flights-after-rumored-pilot-vaccination-protest-strike/

    They are covering it up there, but on Twitter already came out they refused the jab.

  297. justgivemeall says:

    Guys I think they thought they would get at least 90% vac rate and now that it’s really only 50 or 60 they are in full panic. You cannot fight a guerrilla type war against 40 to 50 percent of the population. That’s why we are seeing the almost absurd use of the vac that obviously doesn’t work. So why the big push to blame the UN vacced , can only be one reason and that is that it has nothing to do with health but rather an agenda. No coincidence that the IPCC report coming out now. We must never move from our home until prompted at gun point. I have news for them I still hunt and will until I die. Lock and load.

  298. CD Marshall says:

    I wouldn’t object to holding Billy Boy G down and giving him the shot everyone else is being forced to take. Interesting his wife chooses to divorce him now of all times. We’ll never know.

  299. CD Marshall says:

    Pierre L. Gosselin does fantastic work over at notrickszone.
    Also like
    https://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2015/02/why-new-paper-does-not-provide-evidence.html

  300. CD Marshall says:

    Who are they?

  301. boomie789 says:

    Lackmuster? just some pretty knowledgeable guy I found on reddit. He knows Postma is right.

  302. boomie789 says:

  303. CD Marshall says:

    “Postma is Right” should be on T-shirts and coffee mugs.

  304. CD Marshall says:

    So a scientist associated with the IPCC asked me this,
    “Give us the amount of incoming energy the Earth receives. How many CO2 molecules in 70 microseconds. Let’s see if you know. How many CO2 molecules does it interact with on the way out?”

    Now of course the question is ambiguous and designed to discredit anything I say if I can’t answer.
    Neither of those are really plausible questions. I didn’t answer for they were far too vague for a definitive answer.

    The average energy the Earth receives (from the Sun) is around 1361 W/m^2/ 0.001361 if you go by microseconds (0.9527 in 70 ms). However is 0.001361 W/m^2 accurate for a flux? That’s not including any energy received by cosmic rays which is 24 hours a day and all sides of the planet.

    Now the second part of the question is even more ambiguous. How many molecules does a measure of the incoming flux interact with on the way out? None. How much energy converted to the Earth and radiating from the Earth divided into a microsecond from an uneven warming and cooling planet? In a heated parcel of air billions of molecular collisions can occur in a second transferring KE to and from by transitional and vibarational processes. CO2 is 1 in 2500 and only around 1.928*10^39 kg/mol of the total 5.1×10^18 kg.

  305. CD Marshall says:

    CO2 is 1 in 2500 and only around 1.928*10^39 kg/mol of the total 5.1×10^18 kg (of the total mass of the atmosphere).

    Naturally if all the math is correct.

  306. Stupid irrelevant red herring question. The cold atmosphere does not and cannot make the earth hotter. The adiabatic effect makes the bottom of the atmosphere the warmest part of the whole ensemble. Can they answer why Death Valley has a higher average and maximum temperature than the top of Mt. Ranier? It’s not because of CO2.

  307. CD Marshall says:

    Mt. Rainier is a beautiful isn’t it (you know as long as it isn’t exploding) my wife live in Tacoma.

  308. CD Marshall says:

    Trying something new???

    One of the most egregious forms of government climate distortion is erasing wildfire data before the 1980s and then claiming that today's wildfires are "unprecedented."I exposed this fallacy on a recent episode of @JoeDonlonTV's show.pic.twitter.com/aHzUZTv8zM— Alex Epstein (@AlexEpstein) August 11, 2021

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  309. CD Marshall says:

    What do yo know it worked.

  310. CD Marshall says:

    Kind of worked ignore this https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  311. CD Marshall says:

    Decide for yourself…

    Message from Double jabbed man tells the unvaxxed …“Stand Your Ground” pic.twitter.com/5ExHbiSYL1— Ruthann (@TeaBoots) August 11, 2021

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  312. justgivemeall says:

    https://peckford42.wordpress.com/ This pretty much sums up what’s going on in the world today. All about how to recreate the world in the new order.

  313. CD Marshall says:

    <

    blockquote class=”twitter-tweet”>

    More COVID facts the CDC & Biden Administration doesn't want you to hear. pic.twitter.com/WRaLZtqC0f

    — Sebastian Gorka DrG (@SebGorka)

  314. CD Marshall says:

    Watch it while you can I’m guessing it will be removed soon.

  315. Philip Mulholland says:

    You may want to consider adding Pineapples, and N- acetyl cysteine (NAC), Red Wine and Strawberries to your diet.

    https://principia-scientific.com/why-do-vaxxers-ignore-the-spike-protein-generating-conundrum/

    Just saying,

  316. CD Marshall says:

    Vit E is a good blood thinner

  317. CD Marshall says:

    So just had an argument with someone who said relative humidity did not increase as the atmosphere cools. Then I realized he was confusing RH with Dew Point. Then as he talked more I doubted he knew a difference even existed. Relative humidity is how close the atmosphere is to saturation. Dew Point is related to the quantity of the moisture in the air. Physics is never what the average person assumes.

  318. boomie789 says:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-12/fast-fashion-turning-parts-ghana-into-toxic-landfill/100358702

    If we keep giving 3rd worlders boats full of rice, clothing and other aid, doesn’t that hurt their markets? It would make it nearly impossible to start your own clothing factory.

    Same with food. Subsidize, inflate population beyond their own means, they are now dependent. They will never have their own farms and factories. Now, if you don’t give them food, a bunch of them are going to starve and they will go mad.

    Reminds me of Star Trek’s prime directive. You will just end up doing more harm than good. They have to figure it out on their own for the most part.

  319. justgivemeall says:

    Boomie maybe the plan all along why does the west support rising population in a known part of the world that can’t feed itself. This is rediculous. Promoting growth to starve into submission?

  320. boomie789 says:

    Makes me think of and interesting contradiction propagated by our MSM, I’m sure you’re familiar.

    Westerners(whites) need to have less babies because of our impact on the climate
    meanwhile
    The western(white) birthrate is below replacement, we need to import 3rd worlders to sustain our unsustainable infinite growth model.

    Our institutions are controlled by international interest, not our interest. We are in the way. It’s not fair, it’s warfare.

    “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize”



    Click to access urdy0p.pdf

  321. boomie789 says:

    June 22
    https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210622-moscow-to-require-anti-covid-pass-to-enter-bars-restaurants-as-cases-surge

    “Moscow will only let people into bars and restaurants if they have had the COVID-19 shot or already had the coronavirus, its mayor said on Tuesday, as he announced new restrictions amid a surge in cases that authorities blame on the new Delta variant.”

    July 16
    https://www.euronews.com/2021/07/16/moscow-drops-covid-vaccination-proof-demand-for-restaurant-clients

    “Authorities in the Russian capital on Friday canceled their order for restaurants to only admit customers who have been vaccinated against COVID-19, recovered from the coronavirus or can produce a negative test.

    The softening of restrictions reflects their devastating impact on restaurant owners, who pleaded with city officials to rescind them. ”

    People in Moscow just didn’t participate. Then all of a sudden money is more important than saving lives again? The more you comply the worse it will get.

  322. justgivemeall says:

    On the Canadian front no domestic air or rail travel without a vaccine. So I think it is now out there that the unwashed will be treated differently. Reminds me of Germany say about 1937-8 wow how stupid are people. Lock and load

  323. CD Marshall says:

    I’ve been trying to find a short explanation for the atmosphere. Thoughts?

    “The atmosphere is not a blanket; it is a gravity induced multi layered global transport system for thermal energy and convective cooling.”

  324. Philip Mulholland says:

    “I’ve been trying to find a short explanation for the atmosphere. Thoughts?”
    CDM
    That’s quite some challenge.
    When considering the properties of an atmosphere you have to at least capture the following points:
    1. It is a gaseous fluid that envelops the surface of a terrestrial (rocky) planet.
    2. It is gravitationally bound to the surface of the terrestrial planet
    3. Its constituent gases are the consequence of molecular weight dependent escape velocity fractionation under the stress of a given distance dependent solar radiant forcing,
    4. It undergoes solar radiant heating on the day lit hemisphere and net thermal radiant cooling to space on the nighttime hemisphere.
    5. It acts both as a store of thermal energy and also as a mass motion energy transport system with closed loops or cells organised across its surface.
    6. The structure of these cells responds both to the rotational rate of the planet and also the locus of the solar zenith.

  325. CD Marshall says:

    “Before my account (English Gentleman) was permanently ended yesterday on this platform, I highlighted arson in Turkey, Greece, Italy and Algeria.”

    Twitter banned this guy for showing wild fires everywhere were arson. I’ve seen even more accounts of arson from other countries. The wild fires are man made alright. What refuse would pay people to destroy acres of land and animals for a political agenda?

  326. CD Marshall says:

    all right 🙂 not alright

  327. CD Marshall says:

    @ChrisMartzWX
    ·
    9h
    Using good-quality data, July 2021 was not the hottest month on record. Using two different datasets, the JRA-55 reanalysis, suggests 4th warmest behind 2016, 2019 and 2020; while UAH V6.0 lower tropospheric (TLT), suggests 5th behind 1998, 2019, 2016 and 2018.

  328. minarchist says:

    Would someone (Joseph) please debunk this latest proof of GHE posted on twitter.https://twitter.com/crentsch/status/1319772367229431808?s=20

  329. CD Marshall says:

    @minarchist

    It means nothing.

    Scattering a spectrum or scattering a spectrum to other wavelengths is not the GHGE. DWIR happens all the time, everywhere from ENSO to clouds. The argument isn’t that IR gets scattered, the argument is does that cause the surface to warm and the answer is no. Low level IR does not heat the surface up more. “Insulation” in the atmosphere does not make the surface hotter and it does not make the surface hotter by changing “rate of cooling” which a colder atmosphere does not make the surface warmer. This is just complete misdirection or blatant ignorance.

    Interesting work on him, invalid claims as what the results mean.

  330. CD Marshall says:

    Actually to be clearer, DWIR in this case I meant long wave IR not I did not mean IR from the Sun. Reading the comments below looks like they pretty much covered it anyway.

  331. CD Marshall says:

    This is a good comment…

    hdhuffman says:
    August 8, 2021 at 10:36 am

    “Chris correctly states that this is indicative of a warming…”

    NO, it is not so indicative. It merely shows an increase in the OLR radiation due to CO2, thus an increase in that CO2. It does NOT show global warming, at all. The graph only shows the PRESENCE of CO2, not its supposed warming effect. Those who believe — I repeat and emphasize, “believe”, not understand — in the radiation theory of the atmosphere, are fundamentally miseducated, and wrong-headedly incompetent (imagine an Uncle Sam poster, of stern image, and poiinting at YOU). There ARE NO radiation-forcings of the atmospheric temperature, in the global context. Only the weight of the atmosphere, which decreases with altitude, and the intensity of that part of the incident solar radiation that is directly absorbed by the atmosphere, determines the global mean temperature..

    There is NO CO2 greenhouse effect. Nor is there a competent radiation transfer theory for the atmosphere. Radiation is just one pathway for heat transfer, and the GOVERNOR of the global mean temperature (at ANY level in the troposphere, not just the surface) is the temperature lapse rate (which depends only upon the gravitational acceleration g and the effective atmospheric specific heat c, not on the concentration of ANY component of the atmosphere, whether IR-absorbing or not).

    But nobody listens to the real science any more, for very long. The drivel just keeps coming back, as this post has done.

  332. CD Marshall says:

    Joseph,
    Hope you can get back to Twitter soon. Lot’s of people you could be helping and lots more you could be shutting up. Many do see it but can’t put it into word as eloquently as you can or have the level of science (even among scientists) to grasp the higher levels of the science. I’ve been trying to put the word out as we all do but in the end we are just not you.

  333. boomie789 says:

  334. CD Marshall says:

    @Philip
    Thanks for the suggestions.

  335. CD Marshall says:

    These ridiculous assertions from these people
    1. CO2 does no forcing
    2. A passive radiator does not turn into an amplifier
    3.LWIR does not “force” the surface to a higher temperature.

    Chris Rentsch
    @crentsch
    ·
    Nov 30, 2020
    Replying to @crentsch
    Warmer air can hold more water vapor, another greenhouse gas. The IPCC asserts that for every 1 W/m² CO₂ forcing, water vapor amplifies this “by 2-3x.” Combined, how much warmer will Earth become?

  336. justgivemeall says:

    https://peckford42.wordpress.com/ Good article here this am that I know you guys will like

  337. Wonder if this is why Alberta ended masks and tracing and related covid bs:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/study-links-excess-covid-19-cases-and-deaths-wildfire-smoke

    We’ve had nonstop smoke since end of June. Of course, with such poor air quality (smells like campfire outside for the last 6 weeks, garden dying for lack of sun etc) people get sniffly and yes the infirm even die from it, but of course in California this would get recorded as covid death. Maybe the psycho govt here is trying to engineer things to make it look like covid rose after lockdowns were lifted therefore we need to Vax everyone…when all it is is a few people react to 6 weeks of smoke from fires in the mountains.

  338. boomie789 says:

    Interesting thought. Hopefully it is just your court system acting unexpectantly to the NWO. I hope it sticks.

  339. boomie789 says:

    https://www.nationalguard.com/31e-internmentresettlement-specialist

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    Some of the skills you’ll learn are:

    Military laws and jurisdictions
    Self-defense and use of firearms
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    The skills you learn will help prepare you for a career with federal, state and local law enforcement.

  340. CD Marshall says:

    juliet
    @juliet41597263
    ·
    Aug 11
    Can you please help this go viral in Ontario I am injured by the AstraZeneca vaccine to my eyes and cannot get proper treatment nor will anyone acknowledge it or link it to the vaccine . I tried to apply for an injury compensation and my dr won’t do it.

  341. CD Marshall says:

    What could cause days on Earth to shorten? The only thing I can think of is orbit or rotation?

  342. Philip Mulholland says:

    CDM
    Variations in the Length of Day (𝛿LOD) is a very important metric that is soundly based in observational physics. For climate 𝛿LOD has particular relevance to the issue of sea level rise as this impacts on the angular momentum of the rotating Earth. 𝛿LOD is the one geophysical parameter of climatic relevance that can be directly measured and cannot be fudged,

    See for example this study:

    This study investigated the length-of-day time series derived from VLBI data processing over the period 1979 to 2011. We chose the method of Singular Spectrum Analysis to analyze the LOD time series and to determine its periodic signals with time-varying amplitudes and its trends. The LOD time series is very complex and is composed of several principal components: the long-term trend explains 73:8% of the initial series, the annual 13:3%, the semi-annual 7:1%, and the short-term trend 1:6%. We used complex demodulation to extract the amplitude of the annual and semi-annual components. We found significant correlation between Multivariate ENSO Index (MEI) and: (A) the amplitude of the annual component (58%); (B) the amplitude of the semi-annual component (48%); and (C) the residual short-term trend (46%).

    The ENSO phenomena is a large scale quasiperiodic climate pattern which, although concentrated in the Pacific Ocean, has effects that are globally felt. One aspect of this phenomena is a re-distribution of the angular momentum between the solid Earth, the oceans and the atmosphere resulting in a change in the LOD. Another aspect is a change in air-pressure and sea-surface temperature which serve as inputs to the calculation of the Multivariate ENSO Index. Hence it is not surprising that changes in LOD and the MEI are correlated since they have a common origin.

    Quantifying the Correlation Between the MEI and LOD Variations by Decomposing LOD with Singular Spectrum Analysis.

  343. Jopo says:

    F–k
    Am I getting it or am I still a mile away?
    After reading CD query on reason for LOD fluctuations I immediately thought of Atmospheric mass. I.e Mass causes friction.
    It appears that PM’s comment say similar.
    I then also considered my knowledge from my electrical background. I.e the Force/source of energy is changing. Thus rotational changes.

  344. boomie789 says:

    I hear they banned the vaccines in Afghanistan.
    https://insiderpaper.com/taliban-banned-covid-vaccine-in-paktia-afghanistan/

    I hope they burn the poppy fields too.

  345. CD Marshall says:

    “It’s a fact that BB radiation, at ANY wavelength, the radiance for the higher T is greater than the radiance for lower T. Sure the graph hides that by the 10^6 scaling, but it should be obvious from the equation: as T increases, 1/(exp(hf/kT)-1) always increases.”

    ???

  346. boomie789 says:

  347. CD Marshall says:

    Peace to these guys is death to all other nations who do not serve the Muslim religion and the US is the great Satan and so is Israel.

  348. boomie789 says:

    Are the US and western liberal democracy’s elites/institutions and Isreal the protecters of Christianity or western(european) culture?

    They both look like enemies to Christians and the West to me.

    When I see our institutions and what we pump out through them and our media, degeneracy, so as not to get too specific. It is satanic. Evil.

    Islam is Dygenic and destructive that has been devolving men into beast for centuries as well, but at least they do that over there with their people.

    The Muslims want you to be Muslim, the atheist Marxist globalist want you to be a blue haired vegan freak.

  349. boomie789 says:

    They don’t want to be another one NWO’s fake liberal democracies. Good for them. Keep out of America and Europe.

  350. boomie789 says:

    And the rest of the ango world

  351. boomie789 says:

    Anglo*

  352. boomie789 says:

  353. boomie789 says:

  354. CD Marshall says:

    So far in the closed/open system debate of the Earth:

    The Earth is considered open in that mass is freely moving through the atmospheric layers.

    The Earth is considered closed as IR is the only means of energy escaping the Earth.

    =Although technically not entirely true, we are leaking atmosphere to space (90 tonnes a day) and it’s the colder temps of the upper atmosphere that limits any other kind of energy loss. IR is the only type of energy that can pass freely through the tropopause (-60C) and beyond .

    In atmopsheric physics each parcel of air is treated as an individual system (which is why only local thermal equilibrium is possible) for the troposphere cannot be in actual thermal equilibrium.

    In atmopsheric physics each system is treated as closed, open, isolated or partial.

    However, I was looking into the Conservation Of Angular Momentum again, and the closed/open system seems to change with each different equation and law.

    A closed system is involved. Nothing is making an effort to twist the Earth or the high-diver. They are isolated from rotation changing influences (hence the term “closed system”).
    Something remains unchanged. There appears to be a numerical quantity for measuring rotational motion such that the total amount of that quantity remains constant in a closed system.
    Something can be transferred back and forth without changing the total amount. A diver rotates faster with arms and legs pulled toward the chest from a fully stretched posture.

  355. CD Marshall says:

    ???
    Dr. Astrid Stuckelberger WHO whistleblower – vaccines as a bioweapon to depopulate – entire interview

    https://rumble.com/vivkrl-astrid-stuckelberger-who-whistleblower-vaccines-as-a-bioweapon-to-depopulat.html

  356. CD Marshall says:

    This video is quite eye opening.

  357. boomie789 says:

  358. J Cuttance says:

    boomie, ethical question marks aside, that chart is quite inspiring. Now we know how much to pay people for promoting, say, the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Oh, wait. I forgot something…we don’t have any money.

  359. CD Marshall says:

    J Cuttance LOL

  360. docminarchist says:

    Has this experiment ever been discussed / debunked here? It looks wrong. https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.192075

  361. boomie789 says:

    Well first of all he seems to be arguing from the position that “slowed cooling” is the greenhouse effect where as in their fundamental model used to teach the greenhouse effect

    they say the greenhouse gasses are adding heat, increasing the temperature higher than it would be without them. The ol “the earth would be a -18C ice ball with out greenhouse gases”.

    The other thing I can contribute is our atmosphere is .04% CO2.
    look at their results


    Yea, I’m not worried.

    Pretty sure there is some funny business going on with pressure too.
    Whatever effect they are demonstrating I guarantee you it isn’t the “greenhouse effect” they are teaching you in school, because it is impossible. like in the first picture.

  362. Yah cooling more slowly is not increasing temperature above the input. What a braindead experiment.

  363. CD Marshall says:

    If energy were always heat we’d all be dead and life would simply not exist.

  364. boomie789 says:

    Australian life insurance

  365. CD Marshall says:

    The more I see these videos the more Dr. Astrid Stuckelberger appears sound in her comments. Nobody could believe the Nazi death camps existed until they were taken there and shown for themselves.

  366. CD Marshall says:

    Following up on the conservation of angular momentum,

    “A closed system is involved. Nothing is making an effort to twist the Earth or the high-diver. They are isolated from rotation changing influences (hence the term “closed system”).”

    Would have nothing to do with a closed system. Space has not gravity to cause friction or force against the spin of the Earth.

    However if in the future an object of greater mass shifted orbits it could tidally lock Earth or if a planet moved closer in orbit with the Earth it could change both orbit and spin.

  367. boomie789 says:

    Yea you can go and see the “gas chambers” with non-air tight wooden doors and the Olympic swimming pool the prisoners got to use.

    https://www.goyimtv.tv/v/1920069669/David-Cole-in-Auschwitz-full-documentary-1992

    https://worldtruthvideos.website/watch/fred-leuchter-no-gas-chambers-at-auschwitz_Y2vgxhN7jMQlWiu.html

    https://worldtruthvideos.org/watch/fred-leuchter-on-how-his-life-was-ruined-for-telling-the-truth-and-exposing-the-gas-chamber-myth_JRfYskSAhyGFM2h.html

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/FZT0NAy5nfrS/

    https://worldtruthvideos.website/watch/the-holocaust-unveiled-the-actual-truth-about-holocaust-and-the-persecution-of-revisionists_NcS7iwVCFyOWGP7.html

    It so airtight and blatantly true it’s illegal to question it! Because it’s hate! Incredible.
    I could be arrested in a lot of places in Europe for sharing these videos.

    Weird, since it’s so obvious it’s true and all you have to enforce it at the end of a gun.

  368. CD Marshall says:

    Next your going to claim the we never landed on the Moon. To claim death camps never existed is an insult to Jews and WW2.

  369. boomie789 says:

    No the USA went to the moon in 1969 and a couple times after that.

    To claim death camps existed is an insult to Germans and a blood libel on all white nations.

    Americans had Japanese in camps.
    Commies always have camps.
    Of all the camps, the reality is the Germans are the least guilty of any war crimes.

    Hitler hated chemical weapons from ww1 and it was illegal for German soldiers to rape.

    The commies have no such restrictions and are 10 fold guilty of war crimes. Just we helped the commies win.

    There were no gas chambers, there were no mass executions, those pictures you see with the jews in skin and bones? They were starving and dying of typhus due to German supply lines being cutting off.

    That first video I linked is a full blooded jew btw. Atheist jew, but a jew.

  370. boomie789 says:

    Children’s fable written by a veteran of WW2. I also have ancestors who fought in WW2 for the USA.

  371. CD Marshall says:

    So that makes you a holocaust denier and a Nazi sympathizer. I’m out of here. Bye.

  372. boomie789 says:

    I only say what I’ve come to know as true. If I found out I was wrong I would apologize to Israel and the ADL and never question it again.

    But it’s actually quite obvious that the gas chambers and mass executions is just war propaganda that we are still stuck with today.

    I expected at least a little bit of an argument. I repeat, I only say what I know to be true from the information available to me. If I’m wrong, I would stop saying it, donate to the ADL, and I would then share it to the world that gas chambers did exist.

    But they didn’t. Sorry you feel the way you do.

  373. boomie789 says:

    Another lesson in “you can say anything you want, but you can’t un-say it”.

  374. CD Marshall says:

    I’m sorry for the whole thing. Have a good one.

  375. Zelator says:

    This is amazing. Applied sacred geometry. Putting art and science together to give a more easily
    understandable concept of our world other than a mathematical model. It also explains the importance of creativity, spirituality and right brained flair as opposed to materiality. Have you heard the saying the person is so boring they are “square” well this adds some substance to that, with astounding results. You will need to watch it all to the end to get the full dramatic outcome! Well worth your time.

    Frank Chester – The Chestahedron – The Wonder of Seven:

  376. Yes, come on, you guys are my besties 💓

    Best contributors, smartest commentators, etc.

    I’m willing to consider ANYTHING at this point. People are violently retarded, our smartest people are flat earth theorists, thus, ANYTHING is possible at this point. Pharmaceutical system is a lie. Modern science is a fraud. Religion does nothing. FFS children are getting their genitals chopped off, and trannies dingle their junk in front of children’s faces at fn public libraries. I mean mfg. Nothing is sacrosanct anymore.

  377. Zelator says:

    Actually Joe original astro-theology or syncretism was the original religion of ptolemy and the hyperboreans and was their model not the copernican jesuit model. That is were the lie has its roots.

  378. Zelator says:

    That Heart in the film is Earth …it’s an anagram. The earth/heart is the centre of two vortices causing a toroid. The Soul comes in at the tropic of cancer and exits at the tropic of capricorn.
    The equator is the earth plane. ( Planet Earth). It’s the Apple ( The Toroidal field) it’s the system.
    It is the electromagnetic system at play. White light ( Lucifer) is refracted to material form spectrum.
    We live in a wavelength Matrix.

  379. Zelator says:

    Oh I should add that the white light I refer to in the electro-magnetic universe is Magnetism
    that which is separated into 7. ( electricity) = satan= material world

  380. Zelator says:

    Ok bye. CD is prob. frothing at the mouth with me taking his space and time. lol. take it easy on yourselves cos God loves us and we will win. LOVE to ALL….

  381. CD is just fine. Only trolls and flat earthers get rail roaded here.

  382. Zelator says:

    lololol what a fixed cancel culture we have here. Go on explain your railroading lol. You anti free speecher. You hypocrite..

  383. Haha 😄 Be calm 😇

  384. Zelator says:

    Are you an AI. You sound like one. Ha Ha you son of the serpent. WE know who you support.

  385. Who do I support? I’d like to know lol 😆

  386. Zelator says:

    That’s the problem you sick fucks are so far gone you don’t even know your own mind. You live in a matrix and think you are something, you are a brainwashed automaton. You look at the world through scientific eyes of delusion. You are so far gone you protect your shitty little world. You are Satanic. You think you are illuminated but you are candles in the pit of hell.

  387. Zelator says:

    You can ban me, you can ridicule me but you cannot make me believe lies.

    The greatest trick the devil ever pulled off was convincing humanity that there was no creator, No God and that we are insignificant specks in a multitude of space.

  388. Zelator says:

  389. CD Marshall says:

    great video some people are sane

  390. CD Marshall says:

    Joseph,
    Dr Strong is back he’s commenting on that video I posted. Anyone want to comment feel free. Strong is a troll with a degree and some kind of Marxist nut who use to work for the white house or something (when he could remember his name). He is a solar physicist who believes the Sun is -18C and the GHGE is warming the Earth. What a clown.

  391. CD Marshall says:

    Joseph.
    Strong is talking some smack about you LOL. All I did was mention your name and he went into a rant like a Roy convert.

  392. CD Marshall says:

    Anything to add?
    Newton’s law of cooling:
    Ambient temp 288.15K
    initial temp 288.15K
    cooling constant 1s/1m/1h/1 day
    =temperature 288.15K
    that means rate of cooling does not influence the original temperature

  393. CD Marshall says:

    This sounds too sloppy
    This is a fact. The Sun heats the Earth. That’s where it ends. The Earth’s radiation is a conversion of that energy that the Earth emits thus the temperature is the Earth’s surface not the Sun.

  394. CD Marshall says:

    Joe from the trolls,
    “This is a simple fact: If you have something being heated, and you reduce the rate at which it cools, without changing the rate at which heat is added, that object will get warmer.”

    Give me a quote it drives them crazy. That statement if for a steady state, correct? NOT for a system not in thermal equilibrium.

  395. Philip Mulholland says:

    The saddest thing about all of this for me as a geoscientist is that it should be clear to all that by adopting flat earth physics climate science has removed meteorology, oceanography, hydrology and glaciology from the study of climate. It is the mobile fluids of air and water and the plastic flow of ice that transports the intercepted solar energy across the surface of the globe. Without these critical mobile components creating lateral energy flows which link the tropics to the poles and also link day with night, climate science is a sterile husk of nonsense.

  396. CD Marshall says:

    That’s really true Philip, great analogy. Which Mann is rewriting ocean currents (so I have heard) do not have the stomach to read his tripe though, at this point.

  397. Joseph E Postma says:

    “This is a simple fact: If you have something being heated, and you reduce the rate at which it cools, without changing the rate at which heat is added, that object will get warmer.”

    But the Earth IS cooling at the exact same rate as it always has, because the Law of Conservation of Energy is always in effect, and also because thermal radiant emission is spontaneous. The Earth is not emitting less than it should.

    The Earth has NOT been measured to be emitted less than it should. For the Earth to get hotter while still emitting the same energy, then its emissivity would have to be lowering, not increasing as per the function of so-called “GHG’s”. The physics of thermal radiant emissivity thus totally debunks the entire premise of greenhouse gas theory. Real physics debunks greenhouse gas theory because greenhouse has theory is pseudoscience, with a literal origin in flat Earth theory. That’s how much of a joke it is.

  398. CD Marshall says:

    Thank you Joe. Can’t wait for your podcasts (hoping you are doing them) you know he commented on your video at YT I tried telling you must have missed it or you were on vacation already? Hope you and the family had a good one, able to detox the venom from an insidious science cabal of idiots. Can’t wait to hear the shrill cries of “Big Oil shill” afterwards LOL what a bunch of losers. Hare dare fossil fuels defend themselves with the truth over a political coupe of lies.

  399. CD Marshall says:

    Well they reverted to the “I don’t understand the science” part already. So that means they are cornered and squirming like the little trolls they are.

  400. minarchist says:

    A warmest stated it this way to me recently,
    “Any temperature can be achieved if you don’t let any heat escape and keep supplying Watts.”

  401. Joseph E Postma says:

    The only way you can stop “heat” from escaping is by lowering emissivity. CO2 increases the emissivity of the atmosphere, and does not affect the emissivity of the surface; this results in a net increase in emissivity, hence, CO2 does not stop “heat” from escaping.

  402. Philip Mulholland says:

    Good Presentation by Anton.
    Unexpected Link Between Earth Rotation and Great Oxygenation Event
    Just imagine, an environmental analysis of a strange ancient planet Earth that had regular daily periods of light and dark.

  403. CD Marshall says:

    I just noticed something interesting. It appears that on a cursory observation that SSWs in the Arctic are directly linked to ice melt. In the decade of the 90s SSWs declined and the ice grew extensively. I have the charts just can’t post them here. 🤔

  404. CD Marshall says:

    So an undergrad twerp and GHGE advocate claims this about the excellent video of you and Hughes;

    “Actually that’s it. They’re unpublished and uneducated.”

    They always go back to that don’t they?

  405. Joseph E Postma says:

    CD, these people are morons.

    Look, my brother came up with an excellent characterization of who we live with here: violently retarded.

    It would be one thing to just be retarded, as this would render someone mostly harmless.

    But we have violent retardation, where it is retardation but magnified and supported at and to violent degrees of destruction.

    Violent retardation is institutional…it is institutionalized, professionalized, modernized, normalized. If you’re not violently retarded in some way or another, you cannot interface with society in a beneficial fashion.

    Of course an undergrad says something like that – it’s violently retarded. They all react, always, in violently retarded fashions. Violent retardation means that you never acknowledge a single objective fact, ever; all knowledge is rather only deflection, obfuscation, referral to authority, appeal to authority, and most especially, ridicule – knowledge is defined by ridicule, in that those susceptible to the appearance of ridicule are unpersoned, and those who appear impervious to ridicule issue pretend facts by decree.

  406. CD Marshall says:

    Hughes should get that published if he can find one journal honest enough to do it?

  407. CD Marshall says:

    This was supposed to be some evidence of something profound?

  408. CD Marshall says:

    So Joseph you are right I think most in the scientific community born in this era are incapable of developing an independent hypothesis and can only think when others have thought for them. Bohr, Maxwell, Einstein, Planck and all the great drivers of science would not have wanted to live in this generation.

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